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Andrew Morton's eight biographer he's done by -- of Diana princess of Wales Monica Lewinsky and his and his recent I guess this is an article struck -- -- -- It through UN just -- and David I haven't.
-- Okay Andrew -- not take us through what your your biography of Madonna's is a book is -- An article what what what's going on.
-- I read a biography of Madonna couple of years ago.
The daily based asked me invited me to rise -- the pace about why -- -- just found Madonna and Guy Ritchie filed.
That my thesis is by months that -- usually the giant game offensively -- -- that the world of make believe.
That as follows -- -- such -- -- to fake it.
Which -- might finally.
One guy has this has failed to make of the movie style issuance debate has also.
Is also struggling to make is -- Iowa the other hand as the film tough.
-- can -- ask a question which is what about the -- have.
Where we're headed to the cabala and that his not liking the -- had a lot to.
Do with the break.
Well I mean she's she's she's been abolished -- -- some fifteen fifteen years -- said.
He was well -- of interest -- -- when they first met.
And they attended even cabala.
Sessions to fund men my -- and that they.
Obviously -- -- -- But what sources close to -- announcement is very relieved that the whole -- out in the open because he's been a you can look at the pictures of them together the last few months you can see the strain on them they could.
Being the same venues let -- the same room.
And we have Jill Dobson -- question for -- Yeah and you actually interviewed a fellow Madonna bad about answering your buckets -- the supreme line but Madonna's brother Christopher its economy recently wrote a tell all about -- and of course.
I interviewed him and had to take some things that he -- with a grain of salt because he -- -- -- by the census there.
But they asked him about Madonna managed -- -- -- that this was over the summer when we've heard all the reports that.
Maybe there was some sort of relationship with Alex Rodriguez the baseball player.
And he said that he thought that.
They genuinely loved each other.
But that that.
All the attention in the press and -- the British press is an entirely different beast from the press here in the US.
That attention that was a strain and that it's it's hard to ignore all these stories the constantly say.
You the relationship is over you're falling apart summons cheating on someone did you get the sense that the British tabloids.
Provided a strain on the merits and that that might have been one of the difficulties that they -- I think the difficult that they -- is Madonna is is in biggest -- and gone and then and he's a very macho male.
He likes -- things -- fishing all those.
-- -- -- -- To be overshadowed constantly -- -- I think was -- difficult.
I'm that he didn't get on the Krista the -- and as you as some people we told you that he felt -- -- -- homophobic.
What I -- about Madonna's relationship with -- -- is that he is -- of faith in the time.
For the kind of gone movement on the -- in the past.
He's told itself I think is obviously an athlete.
Is that he's dobbs gained.
He's a very much like in the Dennis Rodman -- that you -- -- formal ball -- that mold.
In the policy and then.
-- so sentence so you know people say roll on out and found nothing of even his Watson is that it was in the -- -- And the power they are discussing -- -- -- -- fitness senses they felt the euphemism for the of these guys.
Anderson fitness center thing.
-- go to my -- -- Probably a rod and Madonna was move was spending that time talking on whether they just doesn't look fit with us -- a fitness.
Strikeout and that will.
It was still is a favorite clear that up exactly how what do you understand the relationship between Iran Madonna.
Well I mean he's someone he's being too Kamal offensively some of these big businesses apartments -- on the west side in New York.
Someone who -- his wife.
Specifically mentioned statehood in the divorce papers so the today have a relationship.
-- -- of -- -- He's very much -- and if -- the power of -- she's being -- in the -- how was he stated that divorce papers and what in what respect.
And that Google's privacy.
Madonna's mentioned as -- he you know -- the found the -- The current I'm not saying not saying specifically that it was a physical relationship but obviously.
-- was distract Tenet and infatuation.
With the dogs.
According to Cynthia is right the event -- safety Eric Rodriguez hit.
Right Alex Rodriguez's wife Cynthia filed divorce papers and specifically said that there is an affair of the heart that outside he has -- with Madonna.
And then us weekly magazine has come out this week and -- Her relationship with Iraq continues to whether it's and friendship.
Or something more than that and that they recently had -- in your city.
Is that what you would be an actor -- this is the one -- defined the sex symbol in America for so long and now she's.
Become -- on like a hard body rugged type.
Scary -- -- gaunt.
The you know.
Yeah I did anyone look at Madonna lately is not think he.
Her -- -- ITV -- -- well I studied as a young man remember that was the pictures now.
There are plenty of women her age who looked great too little is on the front page of any -- and Alex at any guesses alleged affair with age.
-- personal turn or something along those lines are yes and Nancy was a -- That could be his tight apparently he likes these cultures that when women absolutely nobody there.
I don't forget that -- -- -- I don't I don't.
-- danger real quickly got the money to let's talk about the money little bits I've read places.
-- read things there is some somewhere around 500 million dollars at stake of which 400 or 400 plus.
Or Madonna is that -- you see what what numbers you -- Yeah the and in the Sunday Times rich list Madonna -- It was said that Madonna was worth 600 million dollars.
And all -- the guy Rich's contribution is about sixty million so obviously clearly.
Madonna's -- wealthy and the divorce lawyers in London -- -- saying that if Madonna wants to cite a full -- And she's a woman whose.
What by half of tonight -- -- she denied she's better off getting divorced and you'll.
But in London -- that the that -- camp is now saying that he doesn't want to penny from that he's been you live off his money.
And and do I wanted to ask you.
Over there in England.
What might happen with custody because we know there's three children about lord a -- is Madonna's daughter with someone else.
And then this son they have together and about a dozen Rocco and David -- banned them that they adopted together -- from -- so what does the mother it -- here in the US that generally the mother seems to have an advantage in these types of cases but what happens generally in England.
Also this hole was a case in England the that was why on the side of the of the mama but -- we have a situation when Madonna is going on along willful.
She's she wants to spend more time and you'll -- one of the reason the sticking points of the road that right down the relationship between -- -- -- So you got these three children who education in London the mother living who wants to the New York.
Going back with -- -- what's.
I think that -- been in one of the suddenness of this is -- -- David is this kid from.
Molly who is.
-- wolf I'm sort of with the London offensively with loving -- -- -- without.
Give us a sense in the UK away what this divorce means -- this this -- means are people of Saudi -- Madonna.
Well I think it's it's all this -- but I -- my perspective especially -- three children involved.
People of -- same moment the intensity -- my question of if but when.
Because you know Madonna is it right one for reinvention and she reinvented himself.
-- last few years has this kind of not not so much they dominate -- but more a -- it -- feeding chickens.
And country estate going house chasing drinking pints of it's they you know public counselors.
Basically acting almost like a country wife.
A far cry from the woman who who -- -- sex spoken to him out right the Vatican.
So she's moving on nothing of now I must be very difficult when she sits eleventh hotel room tonight -- -- a second consulate in Boston.
Should we think you look in the mirror thing -- fifth take -- -- to my just behind me I'll try my best to Magnus will look.
This one's files so she -- just to -- some questions about.
Who does she start to see next choose the next man or woman in her life is is -- right.
Well I applaud is is is a -- I think she'll list tends to go for a week a man I mean obviously that is tremendous athlete and they responded and want.
But she never seems to pick the kind of guy of wealthy -- -- for example.
-- creative director.
Someone -- whose old already achieved an -- law someone who much has solution that she'll listens to pick guys.
Who would just a bit down the Skiles so so she dominates the relationship.
What's -- what's the difference between how people are looking at this and in the UK and hear what that was -- -- that you -- and -- how.
If people feel sad about it because a number of people and this is surprising to me have said to me.
-- -- -- out about that Madonna's divorce I'm sad and I'm surprised that I'm sad for the children.
But it's I don't I don't feel surprised.
Generally when any celebrity splits especially this management we've heard rumors for cell line there's been some concern and it seemed like the real inequity in power.
And it we've seen it it's almost become a joke that if a woman wins an Oscar.
Her marriage and shortly -- after -- -- just recently Reese Witherspoon and Hilary Swank and and now.
That allowed for that Halley -- which is very sad that it that it seems this here in the west at least that men have trouble sometimes -- a woman is -- that for president -- with him on -- And I think people also sort of have -- interest -- stars because they invite them into their living rooms.
And so when their marriage breaks up it feels like -- -- plan exactly.
And I think it's time.
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Allen and changing isn't it.
-- become overshadowed in recent fall short of the women become insufferable and no from Madonna's -- one of its companies.
-- -- I actually is is it sort of it but it really doesn't gets your heart of a real problem I think that in modern society where my thirty years ago the woman wasn't that successful and the man always was the breadwinner he'll have a much that things are at the home base.
And now when you're happy couples where the woman success this is financially independent sometimes her career -- -- -- her husband.
Would you benefits aside and I think -- -- everything is just an example that the rest of us accompaniment on a far lesser scale.
And one thing.
Well one thing that I've seen in Hollywood marriages is the one that seemed to succeed is if one person in the celebrity and they had someone is very successful in business or some completely different feeling I think Andrew -- to that currently there.
That's that's very stink this year if it were Madonna a rod -- and he who's bigger I really frankly don't know -- -- and she may make a little bit more money.
What he is a superstar athlete and -- egos will be going head and delegate to -- sec but it just talk about that if you have Madonna massive ego.
You know eight in the same house as a -- massive ego you know how does this play out for kids.
Are other things other things that ultimately the size of the ego is that -- the strength of the post policy.
I'm Madonna is a very strong -- -- and woman who's being used throughout her life to getting exactly what she wants doing exactly exactly what you want.
How -- -- butts heads with the pom she the wanted to that you generally wins.
And is is knows it's coincidence that guy which is Korea which is a budding film Korea.
After -- -- to to Madonna because he couldn't get the well the one mum that she's always cry of a sudden mom pulled off Scott.
And local law -- give up an awful lot.
To -- none of -- -- -- Yeah exactly she's cute she gave redwood trees about nine.
-- -- I in the book about cities that he should have been swept -- wise -- not -- -- Laurie I'm really.
Guys' careers of never recover from it you know why you what you probably see in the in the next few years -- Guy Ritchie.
Going from strength to friend on the -- all right time finding his own voices and confidence no longer being overshadowed by his life.
And Madonna going why reinvent himself and -- -- some irony of this is that all film would be spoke about.
Madonna's first -- -- territorial W filth and wisdom it's cold.
And saying that she's about the film.
The guy -- so that tells you everything and -- -- about the power balance in the marriage.
-- have opinion on this.
I just can't believe it's been twenty minutes.
The company does not the.
You and I are here.
-- really on top on that note.
-- and I is a welcome relief at bat I give me two hours and Madonna -- deal but what we're dealing.
You know -- makes it very good point here you know the.
With the economy.
And we can't let you know else other than Madonna or politics by -- let -- analogy going round and tell us -- watching film without tell us about is if it's a book it take you right.
So I -- I was little I just wanna know we can -- your work.
Oh well and have written and -- a number of books and you can get all my books on Amazon -- -- -- on Tom Cruise.
I've done over to the Madonna book.
-- -- done a Monica Lewinsky and many others.
All right thank you very much Andrew Morton from an issue where we -- from where are you right now about the from the -- excellent thank you very much and thank you and I -- so -- -- -- look -- until -- -- yeah.
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