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Paris thanks there's a new major in front of congress that could drastically changed things in the place that you work.
It's called the employee free choice act critics say if passed it could deny workers their right to a secret ballot.
When they vote on whether or not to join a union.
Former senator and presidential nominee George McGovern is one of this measure's biggest critics he joins us now live senator McGovern it's good to speak GO.
V employees to be on your program.
The employee free choice -- sounds like a good thing great name.
Is it is are -- details behind the name that you don't like.
Yes there are because.
Under the new proposal.
Would have the opportunity.
I union without the secret ballot.
They could be pressed.
-- union being ordered by the National Labor Relations Board.
Plus war 51%.
The workers sign this so called card check.
Under the new.
Workers had did 51%.
Of their members signing these cards.
The National Labor Relations Board would declare.
Is that there is union in that particular plant without.
Free election which we now have.
In other words.
If union organizers went into the plan.
That workers to sign these tires are automatically.
Would be declared a union via.
Want to make it clear.
That I'm sympathetic to unions.
I think they've done remarkably.
For the benefit of workers.
-- They should not be declared a union plan.
Simply on the basis assigning these cards yes it wishes what would happen to us is that new.
It seems like there's nothing more American than a secret ballots and you're saying that the prospect of -- secret ballot.
Go away from the workplace that this thing gets passed.
It could happen.
I believe that this system we have in the United States where if you are voting for the president of the United States.
If you're voting for -- congress person.
If you're voting for United States senator.
I think that that should be a secret ballot I think the same thing about it.
Deciding what is the future.
And an industrial or business.
We should not have.
The union decided the union -- decided or decided against it.
Simply by sighing powers we should be able workers should be able to walk in -- that polling place.
Closed the -- And he expressed his you heard judgment.
Without somebody looking over your shoulder.
As somebody simply handing them my card.
This public knowledge how you're going to do that boat that's not.
The American way and that's why am I oppose.
This so called news system called the -- -- system.
It's not a free choice if you had somebody.
Pressing you to sign a card.
If you you do it without the privacy.
The polling place.
You're a former democratic presidential nominee is this year's presidential on democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama supports this plan in fact.
He's one of the co sponsors of the bill have you spoken to him about it and express your opposition.
I hate it.
Obama everybody knows that I've gone public about it but when it comes time to vote.
I don't want to have to do that by simply sign a card that somebody hands me publicly.
Where everyone would know.
What -- did in terms of my voter I want that to be in private and I think workers should hang on to the private secret polling place which you're now.
But would not big yard lead used so called.
He's really not secret.
When you have to sign a card which may be several people know.
Voting did that -- you don't have -- all right.
You really just have.
I assure you -- it could be made under appreciate.
Your people that's not.
The American way deciding something as important.
As to whether or not plan is good to have a union or whether it's kind of reject.
The I would hope that workers would chase would choose a union you wanted pressured.
Into doing one moyers.
A lot of thorny issues there senator George McGovern former democratic presidential nominee and we know.
Just wanted to say real quickly here in the morning to receive the world food prize along with your fellow former senator Bob Dole.
Congratulations to you on that.
Senator thank you so much.
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