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We're in war.
And we need to pray for our military we need to pray for our president all those that are part of that's what the national their prayers all about this not about Islam versus christianity or whatever.
It's about it and nation coming together.
And praying for its leadership and that's what we're gonna do on.
Maybe six will national day of prayer right out of focus this -- -- brand forgot to ask for his help.
At is today and that's what's happening as you may remember the Pentagon decided to dis invite.
Evangelist Franklin Graham from today's national day of prayer event a watchdog group claiming that his past description of Islam as an evil religion.
Might stir up Muslim extremists and that was the reason that that -- was rescinded -- the culture war over this goes way past this one man.
Activists are in overdrive -- saying that the national day of prayer should be scrapped in favor of a national day of reason.
Joined now by father Jonathan Martin that -- And Dan barker is co president of that freedom from religion foundation a group who filed a lawsuit against the federal government claiming this day is a violation.
Of church and state welcomed my -- -- great and -- involved here today.
I didn't -- that's a problem well what the problem at this event and in a lot of people that really get a lot of you know spiritual.
Good and -- out of this event so just let them do it.
Well they can't do it privately.
-- -- -- On the with the government doing the different between free speech in governments be.
Read the judges -- good decision United States is a secular country.
Our nation cannot officially endorse a religious ritual millions of good Americans.
Don't believe in god and we think prayer is a waste of time prayers counterproductive when we should be working on real solutions parent can even be dangerous.
Christians can pray this whole thing was orchestrated by the evangelical Christian right Billy Graham and Campus Crusade for Christ.
They're afraid afraid -- but -- -- the endorsement of the national government.
I -- -- prayer that he.
Let let me -- get other -- response that by the fact that he's saying you know go I had half have a day of prayer.
But it can't be part of it -- government let it can't be government sponsored under church and state.
Both personal and you say that I am off.
In favor of improper separation of church and state in which the government.
Allow -- and protects the freedom freedom for the exercise of religion and secondly.
Does not choose one denomination or religion.
Over another but we're what we're talking about here is a national day of prayer has nothing to do with supporting.
One religion over another in fact it's -- -- about religion.
It's about an expression of and however you want to come up with a revision a story -- what our founding fathers and our country.
Mean and care about in terms of faith.
You're never going to be able to say that they didn't believe in and and a higher power on whom we are dependent and whose help we need.
And you know what I just don't think it's fair to say this is an evangelical.
Right wing thing.
I'm a Catholic priest here I've never been accused of being part of the evangelical.
Right wing conspiracy to turn our prayer into a Christian theocracy.
You know actually just went out that that picture that you're looking -- it isn't reading of the Bible marathon has been going on for many hours already.
I have the capital so that mr.
barker wouldn't what do you say in response to a brother Jonathan had to say that you know it's clear in so many of the documents in the -- in this country that a belief in a higher power.
Was part of the construction of the United States of America.
And you know I go back to again and just that you point out that 15% of Americans don't believe in -- 85%.
Do so why not you know allowed them to continue this tradition that they find.
You know you may not find it spiritually enriching but they they do.
They can continue it privately we're not objecting to them the Christian right and by the way this whole law that we -- talents.
Was instigated by the evangelical right is being orchestrated by the evangelical right and in many liberal Christians and Jews and others have been frozen out of this thing.
But as your father just can -- father but -- your guest just said.
Only faith that's being recognized what about those of us -- -- -- -- about those of us who think faith is dangerous.
We are being excluded in frozen out of the site but I think your -- if I like -- salaries that you're you're suggesting that you're being excluded from a day of prayer and -- and when you say that prayer is dangerous.
Let me let me saying I'm being excluded from some of them that you're putting on that I don't believe it.
Quite honestly I happen to believe and reason and I support reason I don't know faith -- -- -- -- mention.
But nobody is freezing you out of the day of prayer -- but you don't wanna participate in the government is giving a platform but the government has not expressed.
Things that -- are so deep and important to them there -- not in any way.
Pushing one religion over another.
Let's -- we're going through tough times in our country let's allow good people.
Who want to ask god for help to have that possibility -- gentlemen thank you very much if it's able to be here cam barker and by the Jonathan Morris on this national day of prayer.
That is some of the debate that's going on surrounding it and will continue to keep one on the runway -- that's.
Marathon and it it.
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