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Like the show well of course the big news this week is the release of the brand new Twitter peek.
No of course the big news out of Cupertino -- the media event in at Apple's campus for the release the new operating system I think you know there's a couple obviously big -- but the big story.
For developers this week was to get a chance to look at preview line which was the new operating system that apple is going to roll out some time.
In summer 2011 -- -- it'll be interesting to see if they can -- summer is a wide berth.
Was it June 21 to September 21 will it be released on September 20.
First more more likely that in June 21 I mean there's no no way a project this large in this complicated as a full.
Dot release of Mac OS-X is going to.
Come in at the early part of that window there's a lot of work obviously would still be done we got to see very little of it comparatively I think compared to the snow leopard preview.
Snow leopard of course Mac OS-X ten point six was billed as being a feature light.
Developer -- -- no such qualification for this one they said this is a full on release is going to be a lot of features but we only got to see four of them.
And one of them was sort of a combination of features we've already seen so I think there's still a lot of -- a long way to go.
John what's your -- summer summer 2011 do you think they're gonna make that indeed at the end of summer 2011 for the release of lion.
My guess is they're going to be pushing it and then you know and if you want the over under on.
Officials summer -- I might even be tempted to take -- over just because for the last couple of releases.
They've actually you know Mac OS-X has slipped because I think that when it comes down to it if it comes to.
We're gonna throw resources at making sure the next release.
Ohio west ships on time and let Mac OS slipped that that tends to be the choice that the -- So we're looking at some of -- features right.
Now of line.
What are some of the highlights here as we're looking at services that features from the keynote what are we seeing here this is of course looks like this is video of the the app store -- featured.
That was a pretty big deal bringing the app store now to the Mac.
Which is not.
I'm waiting -- -- they sit next right now he's getting ready and that's probably the most important.
Connecting developers with a user on the Mac platform like the -- -- form.
And created by controversy this week some -- -- is apple gonna start closing the on the Mac.
And Mozilla was sort of upset because.
You know -- is a Firefox can't go into the store.
Arguably since apple trying to kill the web are considered on Twitter which -- -- sort of interest thing did join you responded -- you can you responded to that.
Well the funny part -- -- it -- you meet who made the observation it was Craig Hockenberry of that the icon factory who pointed out.
That I forget his name but the guy from Mozilla who posted that he -- city using.
To reach the pack -- need to get back Twitter client yeah.
Yet it was Mike Beltzner that -- but I mean who has there's no love lost between browser vendors at any time.
But particularly when.
Yeah but his point was that apple would stop shipping safari which I think is pretty far fetched to me that's that doesn't seem like it's in the cards in the near term.
Some of the other features -- looking at here what are we looking at now means some of the it's very -- gesture based.
Be able to use multi touch multi touch built in studio less innings in a new way.
Being able to swipe left right and full screen so we're seeing.
This new what is this called launch launching pad at Michigan -- Michigan girl -- -- I'm excited about that's why you -- quite excited.
Because my idea after all of -- -- be my windows can be very tough profits greens so this is gonna consolidate them on by -- On the infield hit by window -- happens as part -- the demo.
-- showed so I'm I'm excited about.
It's a much more logical way work yeah I mean windows.
Are kinda pass they had a good way before missing a windows are gonna go away you can still have them.
If you look at the experience and the truth is most people run their apps in full screen mode and they kind of switch if things get better we organize your workspace is organize your application.
Workflow for a modern PC OS.
John how important was it for apple to do anything with the full screen mode it seemed to -- they're really playing for this almost like unit task -- -- -- -- movement toward -- focused on one thing if you're in iPhoto it's gonna be a you can have the option of making -- full screen.
And you're not worrying about tweedy running on the side.
Yeah I think and I think it's it's about clutter it's about focus and you know that was one of the reasons like if you remember when it you know.
It's eating all of us they're meant it but in the old days like when -- might -- original Mac shipments it'll it streets and -- -- -- but it's it's thirteen -- display with 640 by 480 resolute and was picked.
Raffle these -- -- help but.
Let's could put that.
I think they have.
But -- little bit of a you know it but it and they each got bigger and bigger they.
Like -- stuff.
-- -- -- -- -- -- I wish there was.
The -- got a senate crap and out there sidelined him for a second talking -- the difference in the way the original Mac used to ship with a resolution and having.
Right small small icons small documents get something opening it just it was about.
It was to clutter -- right right.
And if you think about it most people -- work full screen in the application they're working with a few windows users they work full screen attempt applications.
So this is a logical way of working.
And it allows -- keep multiple things running simultaneously it allows me to -- things when they need to wind events when I wanna have multiple things going.
But also focus on the task -- you were doing one thing at a time.
It was just your base and we saw a lot of it yesterday stuff from from -- and somebody's chat room asking -- here is asking why didn't steam use the multi touch track pad.
The magic track pad -- about why did they show that off more.
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- he did mention -- was mentioned as the you know how you translate the concept of multi touch gestures from.
An iPad surface and he brought up the point that a lot of people that made in the context of these.
Apple patents for -- -- touch screen iMac like device that nobody wants to stand their you know.
Finger painting on the wall or on your desktop with your arm out for extended periods of time to do need something that is at right angles to the screen -- to do that.
-- it is a little.
All a little earlier -- use your iPad politically you know use -- this we use it vertically to win and does get tired yet but more importantly bulletin wasn't design.
For a touch interface that's right and where Microsoft is going wrong -- you're trying to slap a touch interface on to windows and it doesn't work.
Where apple I think is working correctly is by saying.
This isn't gonna work we can do just -- multi touch through these input devices and give you multi touch where it makes sense I think that's the point that jobs is making.
We're going to deliver experiences that make sense we're not gonna try and put.
I OS on the Mac and we're not gonna trying to Mac Apple's.
-- -- -- -- And that's so important here because in the -- he's basically seen a lot of people panic at the multi touch gestures with in the software he says it doesn't work as well.
Give us an example for our viewers who were new to this and I don't understand why that -- -- -- obvious here's a week you know we have a lot of viewers to you -- just try to get -- -- -- as best they can but don't understand the deep in this why.
You know why wouldn't multi touch -- the seven work on and on a large screen what what about it is a failure.
I mean I'm talking right now about -- -- -- but so.
You know when you're using a multi touch track pad I don't laptop okay -- in the black -- read a lot of the gestures there aren't not at what -- -- -- -- -- even if they've added and they don't always work as well it'd -- OS so.
Two finger scrolling is always a little jittery.
-- and a lot of that's to blame on the I felt it wasn't.
Stop it with Phyllis feature they were -- -- Clinton people asked the PC on its outlet like Microsoft has done.
That'll bring you that are.
You know we've already seen examples that yet so putting the suit putting windows on tablet devices Windows 7 tablet devices and it's not right.
It's it's also that the metaphor that John I think once interject -- that the metaphor of the desktop doesn't lend itself to being.
Run with a finger because you -- you can't see what's underneath your finger you're if you're pointing at the screen you're obscuring the pointer.
That that contact point is very is in the mouse is one pixel.
I can be very precise about what I'm trying to manipulate the with a finger you can't do that if you put snow leopard on the tablet it would also be disaster and that's one of the reasons why apple.
Doesn't try to do that they're trying to say.
What can we bring from these platforms that makes sense and keep each true -- its -- form factor -- go ahead.
Well again it's the united sort of speaks to a micro I think you said with -- you know the different visited them.
Profound conceptual difference between having a mouse cursor on screen the little -- and it changes to a little I.
Capital -- when your editing text.
And touching with your finger.
That that proxy for your finger in traditional desktop operating systems conceptually it's it's really a profound difference.
Yet and it is Steve Jobs made the point this week this week at the keynote of course that having.
A touch interface.
You know -- -- large screen touch interface where it demos great.
You know and I -- the desktop desktop computer has that has touched multi touch and if you're using your hands up right -- -- -- and -- demonstrated -- -- -- I'm reminded of the HP -- smart.
Whether -- the Microsoft surface I mean there's great applications for full screen touch that.
Are designed to.
Provoke interaction -- -- between people or between the operator in the software and there's great ways to do that.
But relatively few of them have anything to do -- actual productivity and actual actually getting things done.
And what Apple's done with IOS and a little bit in what we -- why it is they're trying to take.
Some of that single tasking metaphor that Michael was talking about of taking over the entire device the entire.
Workspace with one task at a time and trying to bring some of that you know iPad goodness into Mac OS-X.
Particularly for those people who are coming from windows to Ohio -- devices and then potentially back around the Mac.
-- saying I -- -- have those things that make my iPad cool I want an app store I want easy application navigation I want sort of a single tasking.
You know all encompassing workspace those are all coming back to the Mac has for the event title from -- it's.
Like that -- -- yet looked at was yeah and you know I think that also was a great example like just touched on it.
Bring -- back making application for obvious right even if did you like does look like.
A touch people's lives and look.
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