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We interviewed a little while ago representative James Cliburn -- I think you know democratic South Carolina.
I think he's probably in his seventy's and lived through Jim Crow.
In the south and I was so ecstatic that he never in his in his manage innings until a few months ago.
-- yesterday it would happen you're -- two generations.
Then congressman Cliburn and probably never lived through Jim Crow -- or I'm sure experience and institutional.
Races and the city of brotherly love where you went to school where you teach.
Yesterday's natural progression or is is it a sea change in him American cultural thinking.
Was certainly not a natural progression you know yesterday's inauguration sort of co signed with the Kensington really over you know it's really written in the blood people who fought and struggled you know for this moment to happen black and white you know people worked for this this version American that we have right now.
And I am excited to see this sea change but it's just -- the the first step is another step that needs to happen and it's wanting what.
Structural change in minutes wanting to have for the country to believe that a black guy can represent his interest that's another thing for the country to change when its interests are.
And for me to have a black guy as the businessmen to -- structure is no more exciting than a white guy that terrorist is what what's the structural change mean.
Or whatever to see is people have more access to opportunity more access to capital advocacy education educational opportunities expand -- folk.
You know that's the America want to see and if if that doesn't happen and I'm not happy just have one black -- making.
Marquis study this every single David isn't it isn't there all this from affirmative action to what's happening with college applications.
I mean there's a lot of people feel if you're white you're gonna get into an Ivy League school is have a perfect SAT perfect.
You know you're the -- lacrosse player and a hundred on a new greats.
Well it out with an Ivy League school and I didn't do any black -- -- I don't I I was a radical iPhone can and they didn't seem to have perfect scores I think there's some sense of panic.
You know about many many Americans it's somehow that the tables will turn.
Ominous that what's going to happen I think we'll -- -- -- -- I think there was plenty of opportunity for -- focus -- demand -- an opportunity.
For men when I want to see those world where women have more opportunity when minorities and more opportunity we'll.
Do do do do young minorities too young school children teenage school children.
Look at the government it differently now ahead of -- a black man I think they do what emotion that's a good thing.
Because why wouldn't it be a good thing because if you reduce the government to the presidency.
You know Vince didn't send you -- -- of all the other mechanisms in place that make equality.
Difficult to keep up but the the president symbolizes the government he's just one branch but he does symbolize the government Wright is is it not.
For blacks to see that or.
Should they look through skin color -- not that it even want to look at someone -- color of skin color is the same as there's wiping its.
Some excited to see people see a black president my weary though is that.
I don't let the world one -- -- -- become president our own little world all Americans have the opportunity president and -- -- I've been ready of the Gwen Ifill wrote -- whole book about how this new generation of -- in American politicians is coming up to -- Patrick in Barack Obama.
And she -- of hope budgets are never heard -- seems like this could be movement would I find is most encouraging I -- look at rap artists there rich if you look it in the a lot of American American almost all of them.
Outside Vanilla Ice which I don't listen to anymore they -- these -- yet.
Thank you number two -- athletes athletes is millionaires where did you get into politics you know could be rich.
-- for an.
But but are you saying you can't do it for the money elected mayor did the governor of by Chicago caught on wiretap and governor bill and I well I got nobody broke Iraq these guys retire from office Jefferson had no money was broke when he left.
And -- it is worth about fifteen million which he earned him a couple of years.
And the same thing with that.
Forget her name is Jamie garlic it was number two in the Clinton.
Just are absolutely I mean -- the point is that yes some immigrant Obama can symbolize services being exciting need to make politics sexy he can make the idea of making a sacrifice and commitment to the government a good thing that's exciting that people just aspire to be rich and famous as part -- Hanna has has the media.
Or have the Democrats or has somebody.
Raise the bar too high for Obama.
Of course every with the media does give Barack Obama freaked me right now there's you think so are you kidding me.
I mean this spent time there isn't anything like is that.
I mean it's like watching Michael Jackson's layup and an -- and I'm excited about the presence -- businesses special moment but abolish.
Of course it does because I have critiques of Barack Obama you know I was percentage you know we didn't quite make it and the primary -- You know I've I've -- that they did Obama have some serious issues that he needed it with terms politics the media never forced him to the need immediate and asking tough questions not just from the right from the left the right did a great job -- on the wrong stuff.
I think anybody who's president needs scrutiny with his George Bush with oracle you know did the best job as an -- That's probably -- probably gonna get your pillow -- and that just made people get embarrassed for a short time Hillary was knocked out by that time any exact him and got tough with them like a week.
Cad -- Barack Obama be mocked.
Whether it's by Jamie fox weather spotlight comedians like Jamie fox yeah I told them every time he dances he is -- new material.
You know he -- that -- of the black superiority in that arena.
Obama does not have -- and as fox tried I think at the white have been there cleanup but out of as the storm that was my ownership.
And eat the mop Smith by white comedians without the Spector of racism being raised hopes mean I think when you make yourself that open you know in the public's fear you will witness to critique and jokes.
I think the question is what is the nature of the to make fun of someone based disabilities because we -- some of the gas sometimes too serious sometimes he has.
Sometimes he comes to.
You know those things that we should make enough to make yours I think it's funny -- -- have field.
Right so he's going to be right now he is meeting in the light yes these are implementing policies try to free some things George Bush done.
At the last minute the days of only one president time in the days of I'm gonna do this image that there are over I am curious and I wonder if on some level he's curious how he's going to deal.
I think he I think he has supreme if nothing else we know that Barack Obama's yes that I if nothing else I think 800.
We know that -- -- sometimes too often and act -- confident.
To -- I think it's opposite I think anyone who runs for president thinks of the problem to be leader of the free world as -- exceptional but he's so humble.
He hasn't called he called himself.
The -- mouse -- by vice president ever exactly it was that -- more qualified than anybody.
-- Atlanta it's.
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