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Days after that failed Christmas Day bombing attempt on board that northwest delta flight into Detroit the Obama administration ordered tighter screening.
For passengers from -- countries of interest.
Now -- leading group of Muslim Americans now accusing administration of profiling.
-- -- my guess he's the director of government affairs for the Council On American Islamic Relations also known as care how you do with -- good morning to you.
Good morning bill -- probably don't what's the allegation directed toward the administration -- Well the concern is that by putting out a list that is primarily -- Muslim countries what you're gonna end up with is profiling.
Which the Obama administration has said they opposed the Bush Administration so they oppose.
And the international association of chiefs of -- have said they -- OK so you point to two recent cases.
One in Arizona.
One in the state of Michigan where you think profiling occurred go ahead make your case and we'll talk about it.
While the case is very simple.
The argument has been made very clearly the profiling does not work it's a waste of resources and basically ends up relying on the human factor -- well this guy looks different.
And I mean looking at me -- a -- say they're not gonna pull me out of line just because of my name or how I look.
So it's ineffective there are effective ways behavior.
Is a key strategy look at this gentleman on Christmas Day.
He was already on a watch list he did not check any baggage even though he's coming to the United States for two weeks.
The number of other factors that should have flagged him before he ever even got on an airplane -- I think you -- there is a great point but what what would you objective if somebody pay for their ticket with cash.
If they bought -- ticket one way if they had very little luggage if any luggage at all.
I'm -- what why not signal that person now is not based on our culture and our race it's based on what you -- to his behavior.
I think that's exactly what I decide on -- an agreement on that if somebody's paying with cash if somebody is -- a one way ticket they're not checking luggage.
Those are flags and that is something that you should look at but let's use the example if -- of Middle Eastern descent and -- Muslim.
You know that should not we -- a little historical -- just to be clear who's doing that.
Who's doing yes well.
Are we have numerous cases where we see people who because of their head scarf -- because of the way they look.
There was one gentleman even just because he had Arabic writing on his T shirt are being pulled out of line and we know the TSA screeners have a lot better things to do.
Than to worry about a person's ethnicity.
Or their religion but how do you know it's not heaters are people in line who are nervous just to be clever idea on that same line the person was pulled out because -- Arabic writing and in his passport.
There wasn't somebody else put out a line if it's the same description maybe in English and his passport.
Because I think we get enough of these cases that it raises a concern and we're gonna keep raising that concern with the administration.
That's the same thing the African American community has been saying for years talking about driving while black -- new phenomenon is flying -- almost.
To that point and you can take it a step further to -- it can you see it distinction between singling out 25 year old man.
And singling out an 85 -- grandparent.
Because right now what the system is doing the systems pulling them both satellite and check them out.
Not necessarily and I don't see that the section I think it's important pull out anybody who acts suspicious whether they be an 85 year old woman.
Whether it be -- 25 year old.
Well when I go to the airport I'm I'm -- eighty year old people being pulled me aside.
And I'm asking myself it it is that the best use of our resources.
Do you think it is.
We need to be vigilant and if that's what's required that's what record what's required my mother -- pulled out of line every time she goes through because she it's a instrument -- hip.
That sets off the detectors every time.
-- feel that's unfortunate.
But again if people are sending up red flags particularly those behavioral things they should be pulled out.
But a red flag is not somebody wearing a head scarf a red flag is not the person who looks Middle Eastern.
I think based on that -- when Jesus Christ returns.
We're not to let him into the country because -- men of Middle Eastern peace the well -- that that would be a major headline and wish it would Leo it would be a Fox News -- -- it -- I think that I could agree on that.
Well look I don't think I would be interest you know what the terrorists are looking for -- looking for a chink in the armor.
But look at for a crack in the armor so perhaps this is so this is five year old woman gets a pass -- I mean David.
Recruited 75 -- woman trying to penetrate our system.
You've thought about that.
Again you make -- my argument for -- I think we're full agreement here I'm saying.
Behavioral you see somebody standing in line on a hot day with a heavy coat.
This raises the question that's legit why did they see somebody stand in line -- -- Shame on -- of a person like that gets through right Corry sir I'm that's okay just don't agreement work.
We're still an agreement problem comes in one what you're saying is that just because you happen to have -- born in a certain country.
You are now a security threat because let's go back and face it Timothy McVeigh the man who carried out the Oklahoma City bombing was born in the United States he was a white American.
There was no calls for profiling all white Americans Oklahoma either bring on TV they disagreed to by the way in I think it's what got however an -- in the thirty seconds I have left.
You've mentioned behavior.
I agree with you on that.
What would you do to improve security airports in America today Corey.
I think this call for review is extremely important this man was on a watch list this man was denied a visa to Britain this man bought -- one way ticket.
You need to look into why that the system fail in his case -- the make improvements.
Adding things back that have already been shown to be useless such as racial profiling.
It's not going to guard Corey thank you for coming into -- -- -- a Washington DC good to see we'll speak again okay.
Thanks for your time well done you back.
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