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It -- one of the great things about you eat your passion and this if you are -- -- international relations.
If -- intended -- relations.
This is the perfect time for you.
And the perfect guest for you might just be a stop me from wrong here hypothetically the senior adviser and deputy -- to -- captive for President George Bush -- rove do you great.
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Secretary Cheney chaired off Mike I think he's he's offended by that should come on the show Bryant at night can that would -- you think that's wrong.
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rove Karl welcome back to Brian yet.
Thank you got it fantastic -- -- today about former colleague from the bush White House -- single.
Now unlike Dana Perino hard nude art and I agree with you Dana Perino on last week -- call rolled out of bed and had been seen it does the same thing.
Karl welcome back so -- better at it hey you know I've got a better hairline.
So that -- here's here's the big question it.
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Who is gonna turn our economy around the entrepreneurial economy using -- military.
And everything they've learned.
Two to drive our country you know when enough so they will what might that publicity guys in my publisher says little for the rollout of the vote one of the question was does not a joke.
Can you get Karl Rove to tweet about your book.
Literally they say he moves book sales of Carly brought up the book -- -- when he.
Hopefully for you real quick where is -- very -- -- -- A -- you know -- distinctly the that you had -- it.
-- and are rare earlier rare -- about Barack.
So the president clearly looked rattled these the you know the second time he came out yesterday he clearly got new and I think new information.
That was much more complete that showed how way -- he was in his initial statements in the administration's initial statement saying that this wasn't systemic the system worked in most absurdly.
That it was an isolated.
Incident that this was an isolated extremists that the president has changed his way -- on number of national security issues.
A much to my eight -- pleasant surprise particularly on Afghanistan.
His Nobel prize speech was pretty pretty I'm becoming I was quite surprised by it.
Do you think we will see major changes in policy now.
Based on the systemic nature of the information that he was presented do you think he won't send back those twelve gitmo detainees.
To Yemen Saudi Arabian Somalia that the administration announced ten days ago or something like that.
They'll look I think the jury's element frankly to glean unfortunately my pessimistic final days -- 2009.
Towards the view that this was just -- PR effort on his part I mean -- remember.
He had he had this happen on Friday.
He has sends out his Homeland Security secretary in his Press Secretary on Sunday.
So they have.
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I have to apologize -- -- far -- -- And the train is coming sort of have a training -- through mayor and Texas here in the back.
-- -- the atmospherics right I I agree with -- at all I don't think that he was determined I don't think that he was angry.
I think he was more deliberate in forceful but I think he was it -- -- -- make good after the date before he read the reviews.
He saw the seriousness of this crime he knows the American people have been educated to the point.
Will we don't need to be have and information watered down.
Again one time was a back up basketball player now it was a Dutch video producer who saved the day.
Not the CIA -- worries me call he's now blaming the intelligence bureau and he's got a bad history with the CIA already maybe it's too easy to blame the CIA.
Availability you know there are ways of inspiring -- are way to say.
In order -- well.
This -- seems to be focused on let's blame somebody else -- -- like escape criticism and it looked.
There's something here competitive -- that your views frank rekindling toward more Bryant if you had been futile hope can't strike Google -- -- -- our country.
But -- right is that you'll -- Some ships so these policies but they're so embedded it was something that we're all three of us are talking about and that is this is a guy who was on vacation a light look -- woke up.
In the middle of the night when he got the Nobel Peace Prize they waited three hours after the accident to -- you bought it and then what they get briefed him.
Well they bring -- the apparently it took days for him.
To finally awakened to the fact that the sister political war that took days to a -- who at that stage that.
It's sad that call that an isolated extremist.
Carl PHP's now reporting that -- to -- has a defense attorney he was cooperating with the investigation needs of the the and his attorneys advising him up according to the reports.
Not to be divulging any more information.
Well look what should we be surprised if this is my biggest complaint about this whole thing the mindset -- This is -- guy who was like you know try to knock off the 7-Eleven -- But we got drunk driving charge so let's accordion he's just a common -- let's according in the same constitutional protections.
That any American citizen would.
Can who is accused of an ordinary crime and let him get a lawyer Atlanta lawyer up -- -- up.
Edit it and and I think dangerous mindset that you -- and that -- work toward the -- that was -- warrior it was a and it combat.
What we ought to have done -- treaty did not say not as a as -- as a criminal act.
But as an act of war and said okay we're turning you over to the FBI and the CIA and interrogate -- People look regret -- -- -- not -- enhanced interrogation techniques but it excellence what the guy who try to get whatever information they can't that.
But an -- and -- it.
It put an -- to the military tribunal system.
And it that they think they need to try and do it there but you -- imagine how much information.
We could conceivably have got this guy.
And network packet again because -- -- longer has a responsibility.
To tell him not to talk.
Well -- CVS says that do we get our that the CIA was on to this guy before he got on that plane.
And they said that they do have interaction with this this radical cleric originally from Virginia who will also -- major his son.
So did he does know a lot in -- you many minister comes out this morning.
And says hey America there's 200 to 300 other terrorists setting its sights in your country.
And they every ports from this minister from the -- the radical cleric.
That this guy is the tip of the spear the other attackers are coming Scotland Yard a similar statement.
Carl I -- forget about politics.
As in America and I'm very concerned.
Well analyst it is if there's any time during this process did did did that requires failed a -- I mean here's a guy who bought a ticket.
Using cash one point oh he had no bag she has problems that document he's coming from -- part of the world that we know is problematic.
-- there was an information provided by its father respected government of former government official Nigeria -- US embassy.
Hey I'm concerned look further earlier in the job and yet in there and there were apparently some kind of problem in the board the plane.
In Amsterdam apparently in the Iranian behavior on the played eight times during that process up to the point where it got on the plane and Amsterdam should this have been flagged for at least secondary screen you've got -- you know.
You know I don't know about -- -- spec -- -- as they experience -- secondary screen I suspect your important not to you don't.
He doesn't it though and I did when I went to Kuwait before the Iraq War every time I fly international do that much I always get singled out because.
I went to Kuwait in my passport or you guys must see you asked do I guess and I -- to show up the show but -- during an airport in Israel with Iraq -- entry stamps passport like I do and they don't know what to do with me -- The last -- it was reported that two senior administration officials.
Had leaked that they were going to be military operations of some nature.
Joint combined operations between the US government in the and the Yemeni government against al-Qaeda targets.
In Yemen that to me.
Was one of the most amazing things that the administration.
I mean that was a coordinated.
Leak they wanted to disseminate -- military action is going to be taking if you're going to conduct an operation.
In the heart of the region why on earth would you -- that out in this sort of coordinated fashion and less.
To your point that you want to clean up -- the.
It's a PR problem but it view this as -- this is just let's go make it look so.
Let's -- autopilot.
So let's say in briefed every three hours at let's go quietly ordered it takes operations so we're seeing today it'll work out the -- people have access to the Internet -- not the only people of access to major newspapers and and end -- and cable channels and these -- -- -- it will where we are let's slow.
And and this is why you know I'm.
This administration to -- abuses as a PR district -- contingency account -- in the aftermath of the president's.
Speech on Monday it's remarkable Olympics they were there were criticized by what -- -- take treatment that simple we want to reassure the American people we -- delay.
Well okay yeah so the -- you're gonna put out GM's.
And and in the -- title on Sunday to say all the since the war -- -- -- -- on -- it didn't work and now the president today.
But yesterday choosing the -- -- -- -- -- grows systemic -- -- -- how reassuring is that they also settlement he well he needed to be you know we need to show that he was.
-- -- didn't give all information orders showed that he was thoughtful.
-- -- Having independent this -- -- vacation with what its staff thought were more important issues like is basketball game.
Credit Bob Rotella for three -- -- you know would be interesting and out of wherever she had a bit if at least until.
Twelve years after the Obama administration -- somebody go to the national archives documents.
If you what this guy actually would -- Yeah right and -- -- -- this notion the argument that he was being you know reflective and thoughtful and gathering information -- -- I mean he -- he did finally come out he he came out with a strong point of view I mean.
He can isolated terrorists yeah I isolated to actually he had a -- position and he was very assertive about articulating it the question.
I -- -- remarks incoherent.
They have been at it's.
-- isolated extremist.
And then just before that he said you know what we're gonna attract all the people who were involved in the full benefits and isolated extremist.
Also used to to score political points teaching he had a lot -- there.
You know basically in essence that in it struck me is really picking up because it it was in a weird place in his remarks.
Which -- what we're targeting agents fear in division.
What wait -- it.
We shouldn't be afraid of people were trying to kill it what's the division between and they and most welfare without -- political -- this bailout not engage in dividing Republicans and Democrats like my predecessor.
Well duo is Charlie we definitely have we gore for this for hours and before I let you go and I do wanna get one low one line about Iran best way.
To handle it now to foment the unrest it's happening in our number one enemy on the planet how do we deal with this -- call rove -- in office.
What what virtual pick up the -- seat or get it yourself maybe it's in the outline on the planet actually get -- the best people the world -- so you gotta do it but let me just say this I thought it was eight -- the states.
That the president waited three days.
Said that when he came out on Monday he had to refugees he commented on the Christmas Day -- it.
And at the same time commented on on the Iranian protests this is why he should have been out earlier on the on the -- and so that he could comment on the Iranian.
Protests which are extremely important -- a -- potential turning point.
Involved irate and in our relationship with -- of and in the end and it got -- in not only that but he got put in the context.
You know we're talking about a -- -- -- -- in in in the same speech we're talking about yeah Irene.
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