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That's got to explain why we are now.
Our -- -- entering our fifth year of war.
We're supposed to be going over there for Weapons of Mass Destruction.
That we never found.
We're told that it was going to last a few months and cause a few billion dollars we have now spent.
Thousands of lives lost than we have not.
-- And that's just stand that things are improving in Iraq why hasn't the news reach Barack Obama and as President Bush's foreign policy.
Made us safer are actually put anything greater danger we now continue.
With senator Dick Durbin an adviser to the Obama campaign and senator -- -- I know -- I might not agree on a lot but I know we both want America to be safe and to care and and have that national security.
You think America America been attacked.
In the last seven years why haven't -- been hit.
I think we've done some good things I think our law enforcement and efforts and intelligence are good.
And have helped keep America safe but.
If you take a step back and take a look at it you have to wonder is Al Qaeda weaker or stronger than it was on 9/11 -- stronger settling.
The Taliban forces routed from Afghanistan or they've now stronger or weaker sadly they appear to be stronger and threatening the stability of Afghanistan.
Osama bin Laden still on the loose.
Do we have the kind of global coalition that we want to fight terrorism unfortunately we don't.
So there are many things we can do to improve the situation and make Americans safer.
Well -- an index after index actually shows that Al Qaeda has been -- absolutely decimated across the globe and obviously still very dangerous.
We still have to deal with them.
But whether we're talking about the situation in Mosul senator Durbin situation in Basra where the overall security situation in Iraq.
There's no doubt about it that things are improving and as -- had it seems that the Democrats.
Always have trouble embracing the good news and at some point.
I think the good news catches up with the narrative that that a lot of Democrats have which -- it's all disaster mean if at all going to turn -- -- -- on January 20.
I could just tell you the really good news when American troops start coming home from Iraq.
If the surge is really working.
If the Iraqis are really taking responsibility for their own country but they're willing to spend their own oil revenues and building their country.
Stop sending hard earned American tax dollars over to Iraq to build schools we should be building them here.
Why can't we spend more money here on health care.
On energy policy instead of investing it in law.
To say that this has been a success and the troops can come home as a pretty hard thing to explain.
Do you think that the Bush Administration has been more aggressive in going after terrorists or the Clinton administration.
Well it's certainly a different challenge I mean when you when you look at the efforts and of course the President Clinton there was an effort to take out Osama bin Laden.
It was not successful.
And under George Bush you'd have to say that terrorism at least its ranks they have grown Al Qaeda you're saying is weaker but.
By every major when I was a member of the intelligence committee.
They -- group that was very limited and very specific one region has now become a global force that is a harsh reality that the next president will have to deal with.
So I don't discount the fact that we are fortunate blessed in this country not to have been attacked again since 9/11.
But for those who think that we're living in a safer world today.
Just look around -- 160000.
American troops risking their lives issue and -- comfort and safety of this interview.
Right but they're risking -- lives -- our security and you admitted at the beginning of this segment that.
Now the that we haven't had an attack on American soil and during the Clinton years we at Khobar towers we had.
Of course and they -- embassy hit.
And ten and Kenya and Tanzania as far as I can call Ali did we had the USS -- all we did what blow up an aspirin factory -- that haven't had -- President Bush spent pretty aggressive in going after terrorist compared to the democratic administration.
So let me ask your question which one of those terrorist attacks was initiated by Saddam Hussein of Iraq.
And he answers none of them.
We have that protecting the wrong but contract instead of going out the Taliban and Al Qaeda in Afghanistan how we are doing our resources in this country to the wrong site the won't Barack.
And -- you can have it.
Let's -- that senator you think it's a good idea had they not that.
-- those two volatile areas of the world Iraq and Afghanistan we now at least have the chance.
At that real stable governing.
Bodies and we have the fledgling democracy that's a good thing right.
Fledgling democracy well I think that's a stretch I think that there is some stability that -- still looking forward in Iraq -- -- -- would there -- troops would be coming home.
All this argument about our success in Iraq when I see troops coming home and National Guard units not being deployed from my state then we can say it's a success.
It's another thing that's happening and Mosul Basra the Basra initiative.
Oil sharing revenues the provincial governments not -- that adds up to much positive news frail.
Positive as it may be the bottom line argument is whether or not.
They can stand of their own whether they can defend their own country.
Whether they can govern themselves and use their own resources instead of tapping into the American treasury for fifteen billion dollars a month.
That we send into Iraq a country that has a thirty billion dollar surplus and its treasury from oil revenues.
Why don't we continued to do this if this is such a success story.
I think it needs some time at all that things damage senator that's what took the Senator McCain citizens Saturday is that -- and I think that I heard that your on the short list for secretary of state for Obama Barack I -- I.
Not that till it's true but I would.
My ambition is to be the senator from Illinois I enjoy this job.
Highly appreciate it very much thank you senator and thank you and.
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