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-- on the health care reform debate the number two Republican in the Senate John Kyle who comes to us from his home state of -- and senator welcome back to FOX News Sunday.
Good morning thank you.
Senator you on the Senate Finance Committee seen by many here in Washington is really the only way to get a bipartisan piece of legislation when it comes to health care reform.
Out I'll give us the behind the scenes of what's happening with the Senate Finance Committee and will a deal get done.
First of all set the stage in the house -- there were three different committees and they have not been able to bring a bill to the floor yet they were hoping to do that -- within this next week but that doesn't look likely.
In the center two committees the health education labor and pensions committee which has.
Reported a bill out it's very much more along the lines of the house bill and what the president has talked about.
And then in the finance committee which is the supposed to -- the right key parts of a -- talking about how to finance all of us.
We have had a lot of meetings both formal and informal meetings but there's been no product yet.
And one of the reasons as you point out is that this is very hard it's hard to get.
Democrats together to agree on a bill let alone Republicans I think it's important to remind folks that.
Democrats have a sixty to forty majority in the Senate and bigger margin than that in the house so if they all got together they could pass a bill this is being held up by Republicans.
But it's hard and so there have been a lot of it informal negotiations over the past.
Three or four weeks no bill has emerged yet I think it is probably unlikely that we will actually produce a bill in the committee.
Before the August recess but -- I wanna say I think that's a good thing.
You know this is a democratic republic where the people are supposed to tell us what to do.
We've now heard about a lot of different plans and I think it's a very good thing for us to go back home or they August recess.
Lay it out to our constituents and say all right folks what do you think we ought to do here -- the pros and cons of all of these different proposals.
The American people need to speak to this and I think if they do will make much wiser decisions.
Senator Chuck Grassley from Iowa is the ranking member of this committee the Senate Finance Committee do you trust that.
Senator Grassley will be able to negotiate something that you will be able to sign on to.
I'm not at all sure.
Three and -- had a hard time and my kinsey who is our ranking member on the help committee and is also a member of the finance committee.
Has been involved in those conversations as well and we talk about this a lot.
He brings back reports frequently very very difficult divisions part of it is these CBO scores that you talked about earlier again for folks watching.
The Congressional Budget Office is required to tell us how much he the director thinks it's going to cost so that we can try to find ways to pay for it.
Or to reduce expenses and some other areas so that we come out met.
Without having any increase in cost.
It turns out to the Congressional Budget Office in scoring these different proposals.
Scored very little savings and huge costs.
So that will have a deficit under either the house bill or the Senate bill anywhere from 240 billion dollars to 600 billion dollars.
And they're having a hard time doing as much as they want to do.
And still not having that kind of budget deficit.
What what are the key sticking points for Republicans one of the Republican alternatives that possibly could could make a deal going full.
Me answer that two ways first of all there are specific problems in an hour health.
A delivery system today especially costs for small businesses insuring their folks and some folks that are pre -- have preexisting health conditions and so on.
But according to a fox poll 91% of Americans have insurance and 84% rate their insurance good or.
Excellent so Republicans believe that what -- ought to do is focused solutions to the specific problems that are that exist today.
And not scrap the whole system in an -- imposed some kind of new government run regulatory system which is what.
The the bills that the president and in the house and help committee are.
That the American people don't want either so let me give you some specifics in this -- to the second part.
One of the things that the president never talks about because of the support of trial lawyers.
Is the fact that we have a big jackpot justice system.
In in terms of liability lawsuits.
And we've got to get a handle on that Republicans want to reform that we believe that could take a hundred.
Billion dollars a year in excess costs defensive medicine practice by positions.
Out of the system that's a way to reduce costs by perhaps a hundred billion dollars.
Newt Gingrich has talked about the fact that there is anywhere from 60000000240.
Billion dollars in Medicare and Medicaid fraud.
Insurance companies pay a lot of people to weed out that -- because they couldn't stay in business.
If they had to eat those kind of numbers Medicare it's the taxpayer money.
You got a huge amount of fraud and there.
Third one of the problems is that small businesses can't banded together and have the same kind of purchasing power that big businesses do.
And so we support association and small business health reform.
Four here's a big one.
We believe that insurance company should be able to sell health insurance across state lines.
Just like life insurance car insurance although you can buy a car insurance policy from state farm anywhere in the in the country.
There isn't -- big enough risk pool in a lot of the states to have affordable insurance.
And therefore they could -- across state lines.
It would provide that for them.
It just say reform health savings accounts we should be able to pay our premiums from savings account individuals should have the same kind of tax deduction as businesses do.
A big business ought to be able to get its claims information from insurance companies so that they can compete -- insurance.
I could go on and on there are.
A myriad of specific proposals that we support and they would all have one thing in common duty to provide greater access.
Or reduce cost and they wouldn't interfere.
With the coverage that most Americans have and like so senator I guess the bottom line question.
The chairman senator Max Baucus and the ranking member Chuck Grassley.
Do you thing with a long list of things you just mentioned that there is a bill that can come out of senate finance that is a -- from us.
Why I sincerely doubt it because none of the things that I just talked about.
Have been accepted by the Democrats President Obama as a senator voted against most of the things that I just mentioned.
Those are all good ideas they're Republican ideas.
And our colleagues have voted a lot of them down have not incorporated them into the bills one other thing.
Why do they keep voting down Republican amendments to ensure that those -- that there -- no rationing of health care.
-- at the end of the day what really matters is what your doctor says you -- your family need and you having the ability to provide that for them.
Instead the Democrat -- insert the government in between to set the rules on what insurance policies can cover and not.
What Medicare and Medicaid can cover and not.
And he sexually rationing the care that we would get that's their way of cutting costs we keep offering amendments and say whatever else you do don't.
The ration care don't impose policies that would delay or deny care to Americans and they keep voting these amendments down why.
Because of course at the end of the day I think most of appreciate.
That they are going to be rationing care and that's the wrong way to go so if you were to -- today you would say it's what highly unlikely that the president would be signing -- health care reform legislation.
By the end of the year.
The only way that I think he will sign it and it's quite possible that he'll have something to sign.
Is frankly if the American people say we don't like the direction this is going the costs adding to the deficit.
The new taxes you don't get to keep the insurance that your have.
Rationing of health care.
Why don't you.
Instead of trying to redesign the entire health care system.
Why don't you focus solutions to the specific problems that increase the costs.
And help those small businesses and individuals.
Get the insurance at an affordable cost as we've discussed I think once they scrapped the bills that are out there right now and start over with this approach.
We'll have a good chance of doing something meaningful.
-- your colleague from South Carolina senator Jim dement said this this week.
If we're able to stop Obama on this you will be his -- it will break him.
Your colleague from Oklahoma senator Jim and -- said this weekend stall democratic effort on health reform we can't install it.
And it's going to be a huge game for us.
Who want to turn this thing over in the 30 election -- Kyle do you agree with them.
I don't I agree with that kind of language -- -- what Jim -- -- -- as he wanted to break the momentum of the inevitability of passing these liberal health care bills.
They said we had to pass stimulus -- do it immediately or else the economy would see 10%.
Or 8% unemployment it's not going to 10%.
And what we're saying -- slow this down so that we don't do that we we don't make another bad mistake here.
But I do think that because the language as a political implication it's unfortunate.
Both sides talk about the politics of these issues I don't think -- ought to be focused on do you think the president's in trouble with his polls slotting in recent days and weeks.
Well from a purely political standpoint yes.
But again that's not my main concern right now he's only been an office six months and he's got a long way to go and right now I'm more focused on.
Issues like the health care that we have got to get right.
And I think we need to take the time to do and that means slowing down the momentum of all of this so the American people can instruct us when we come back home.
-- I think that's what we gotta do.
On a topic of funding abortions.
And whether federal dollars tax dollars would be used for that.
Asked recently about that if that would in fact happen as the bills that have already passed committee.
It does happen the president said rather than waiting into that issue at this point I think it's appropriate to figure out just how to deliver cost savings do you believe that the president.
Is stepping back from that there will be some kind of commitment that federal dollars will not be used on abortions.
I hope so unfortunately in the democratic bills that passed the house in the bill and help committee.
That's not the case funding of abortions as record.
I used to as a lawyer represent a Catholic hospital they do not want to have to do these kinds of things and yet there's language mandatory language.
In some of these bills the president should step back from that that would be bad policy.
Now on to us Supreme Court nominee.
Sonia Sotomayor the vote in the Judiciary Committee is Tuesday you've announced you're going to vote against that nomination however at least one Republican on the Judiciary Committee senator Lindsey Graham.
Has announced he will vote for her.
How many Republicans do you think will vote for her on that committee.
I'm not sure it may just be one that Republicans are not trying to get a big vote either for or against.
Each individual Republican can vote however he or she wishes.
I will vote no incidentally I will tell you that if it were a matter of having to get her out of the committee -- -- the floor.
I would vote yes so -- the full senate would have an opportunity to vote on but I think it's clear with.
The huge majority the Democrats have on the committee that there won't be an issue.
I was very disappointed in her answers to the questions that we posed during the hearings and if you wanna get a little bit more detail and I'm happy to do that -- what kind of justice that -- is it appears she's going to pass.
Easily and and be confirmed what kind of justice do you think she'll be.
But one of the problems that I don't think we know.
There is the judge Sotomayor -- that rendered certain decisions the judge Sotomayor who gave certain speeches.
The judge Sotomayor the testified before our committee some times and contradictory ways and it will depend on which one.
Actually starts deciding cases and because I think she has some burden of convincing us of her positions on these issues and she certainly didn't carry that.
That burden as far as I was concerned in the committee I will be voting against -- Okay finally seven -- Alaska Governor Sarah Palin is stepping down today do you think she's going to run for president.
I have no idea.
I think one of the reasons you may be stepping down as -- -- get out of the public limelight.
With all the attention being paid to her every move and get back to semi normal life I have no idea what our future plans are I think that was the right move.
I don't wanna be critical because you never know what -- families specific situation is.
I kind of wish she had decided to stick out her term as governor I think she was being very effective.
Voters obviously had a lot of confidence in -- And once you start a job like that it seems to me that you should try to finish it.
Unless they're really extenuating circumstances and she did talk about the the difficulty for her for -- him.
After all our family should come first so I'm just not sure.
Center Kyle thanks for sharing part of your day with us please come back thank -- -- you -- coming.
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