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Well the president today calling it does that to borrow 700 million bucks to make the tax cuts permanent for the wealthy he -- -- to get a Florida and Oklahoma Republican senator Todd -- wonders.
Why importing anything has suddenly become an issue for the big -- senator good to have you know.
The deficit to newfound.
Religion I guess -- a lot of Democrats leading with the president would -- You ought not gonna comment on whether there are Johnny come lately or not but the fact that -- odds are that in front of our country is a tremendous problem that we have to make very difficult decisions about it's about time we start make.
What they're saying I think greeting -- between the lines senator is that.
If we don't force this issue of raising the taxes on the upper -- now will never be able -- because even a two year extension means.
We'll be I don't know election period Republicans will be rolling the dice and getting.
-- Republican elected president and they don't mean what they say forcing the issue so even though we're seeing these.
You know and it -- are coming in along with tones to date outsmarted us senate colleagues of yours today and -- day.
Agree with you that -- is not the time to be raising taxes on anyone.
What what it comes -- this.
Well first -- I don't think there's a time that we should be raising taxes on anybody over the next ten or fifteen years.
We downsize the federal government eliminated all the waste fraud abuse inefficiency and duplication.
That is -- it it's just unbelievable.
The amount -- stupid programs that aren't effective that are duplicative one another -- -- -- things that we're doing that we have no business doing if in fact we.
Looked at it like the average American family would look at it.
There wouldn't be any need for tax increases that we we eliminate the spending that's not effective and not cost effective and also not constitutional.
Senator we're just went to two new college seniors have been sworn in just -- they're filling -- vacated positions by course.
Vice president Joe Biden.
In Delaware -- -- gets that job West Virginia governor former governor I'll mention becomes new.
-- senator from the state of Delaware both as I say it's our -- which you -- this not raising taxes on anyone just yet although they do believe that eventually.
The rich should pay more in taxes we did it it's goes whether it's two years or not that eventually.
Taxes are going op -- at the very least on the bridge.
Well I think it depends -- what the American people want from their government.
If you want us consuming 25% of the GDP at the federal level then we're gonna raise taxes.
But the historically we've been at seventeen to 19%.
And we -- to get back -- -- and we ought to do that by cutting program.
And cutting benefits that we that up.
That were not earned by a lot of people for example.
We have one in nineteen people in this country presently collecting disability insurance one in nineteen people in this country aren't disable.
But we've got a program that's designed to be defrauded.
So we have tons of people getting that check check from all the rest of us that refuse to -- here either -- So it just a matter of people what people want it -- I think the people spoken in this last election they wanna slimmed down.
Role of the federal government they want us to live within our means and the last thing on their minds -- tax increases.
And I'm not willing to say we ought to get tax until we get the grand bargain that's gonna put the government back in the proper role as envisioned by our founder.
Senator -- -- Oklahoma colleague and off on this very show.
I'm last week Friday.
And he was supporting that that's the fairness of earmarks -- that there's sort of an arc.
Pass their long.
And and stored part of our history.
And that they do have a place nevertheless the two -- Republican leader in the senate.
Saying that he is open to a -- -- I don't know how long it would last on this but what do you make of that and whether the sands are shifting.
Well I think the American people want the -- to shift of -- vast majority of Americans know that it.
-- mark through the thing that -- things to get things done that aren't necessarily.
Constitutional are not necessarily a priority there's nothing wrong with want to help your state.
But when your focus is on the parochial rather than the national.
You get the kind of trouble that -- in this country work really well for 200 years without earmarks -- we didn't have earmarks.
-- and what happened every time somebody tried to do something about they got shouted down from the rafters by members of other members of congress saying you're thinking about your state not our country.
And I think it -- My senior senator is a wonderful senator he represented Oklahoma fantastical.
We just have a disagreement on this because I think we can make sure the money spent right by doing the proper.
Over there why isn't anyone saying senator prominently get I -- -- -- -- aren't I just like it's not very -- Kind of permanent.
Listen I'm happy to get a moratorium I've been fighting this first six years I've been -- and all the time I was in the congress and senate and the house.
I'm happy to get a more -- the American people are way ahead of congress and Washington as usual they know this is not something they want have duck.
Even if it affects them individually.
Remember most earmarks are not competitively bid.
So there there's a lot of problems with the earmarks besides the fact ready focus on the parochial benefit and but I about a -- you were way ahead of this in your party and outside.
On senator -- thank you very much.
Neil good to be with you --
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