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Wow here's a -- Korea speaking of problems in the media Kelly's court is back in -- and on the docket today the veteran radio announcer.
Canned for making derogatory remarks to a female colleague.
ESPN just fire Ron Franklin for comments he made to sideline reporter.
Gene Edwards in a meeting before the Fiesta Bowl this is not on the air this is off the -- Edwards now says that part of the exchange went like this sheet okay so this is the woman who was the target of the remarks she says that Ron Franklin.
Told her with a condescending tone which he tried to participate -- conversation he was having quote.
Listen any sweet baby let me tell you something.
Edwards says she told frankly not to address her like that and she says -- and respond with quote.
OK then listen Andy blank hole.
Except Edwards says the -- use the entire swear -- They remain remember that this is not the first incident between male and female employees.
Of ESPN and now there are suggestions.
But this is a workplace out of control.
So let's talk about it with our panel trial attorney -- Armstrong and criminal defense attorney mark I -- All right mark let me start with you because it the first I want to know whether this guy Ron Franklin has the potential argument that his firing was unjust because.
Heat the the allegations against -- and ESPN is in a rare -- about said specifically why they were firing him and they said.
It is based on what occurred last Friday they're not saying the entire universe of Ron Franklin they're saying based on what occurred last Friday what occurred last Friday.
Is he a pair allegedly called her sweet baby and then.
-- -- Is that enough to -- guys that with the organization for two decades.
I don't believe it is I think that an argument can be made that there you could -- -- up put on suspension like tornado Tony Kornheiser was.
Phillips was fired for having an affair.
That's something you know that's a lot different than this.
I think it could have gone a little shorter than that may be a suspension.
Maybe some discussion at those phrases from the 1920s.
Are not acceptable these days.
Sweet baby -- Yeah well what about -- what about he mentions Kornheiser.
-- -- and Kornheiser made these remarks -- we have these rate -- That chicken in -- -- is getting McMillan I think we've got this -- -- got Tony -- came out and -- that Hannah Storm a storm another ESPN's.
And said the following listener what he said he only got suspended.
When doubt Hannah Storm in a -- -- -- -- -- Outfit today.
She's got on red go go boots and -- Catholic school plaid skirt way too short.
For somebody in her forties or maybe early fifties by now.
And she's gotten on -- typically very very tight shirt so she looks like she's got sausage casing wrapped around her upper body.
All that only warrant suspension.
According ESPN but this guy frankly gets hired because -- sweet baby and that other expletive.
Well -- -- didn't sweet sweet.
I mean there's the difference because that that's.
Fantastic yeah we've -- out -- that's bad hey maybe it is but the fact and it -- what happens when something like this goes down.
The the it starts to spread publicly -- CEO the General Counsel they caught the -- outside lawyers can offer and get involved and you sit down.
And you try to do what's best.
With the institution.
And what's best for the institution may not instantly all the time from lawsuits but here they look at this guy and you gave one account I read other things which is.
He said what he said and she said don't talk to me and then he dropped the eight -- Right and then in addition to that wasn't exactly contrite based on what I read that they asked him to personally apologize to her and he refused to do that.
-- have to look at the totality of circumstances if it's limited to that one.
-- -- you said it seems pretty draconian it certainly seems arbitrary you can't see any pattern there any policy.
We also know what is what's in his written contracts are those are all questions that I'd like to know the answer to before I second guess what -- to.
What I admire it I'm done studies have a bit of a new seven want to interject an appellate court that is we are connecting right now with Juan Williams and he is up next.
Right here after we wrap this Kelly scores let me just -- -- debate -- the panel as we get along connected and then we'll get his reaction to the breaking news -- NPR mark.
Let me let me talk -- you because the reports I read where that actually this man.
Did it later apologize or at least said he was yeah he was willing only to apologize he was willing who's willing to apologize earlier.
But the truth is about this guy Ron Franklin mark.
As that apparently 2005 he addressed another sideline reporter holly Rowe as.
So weak heart during a gain gain and a very to Jolo is what -- -- -- it it was sweet -- it was like.
Let me explain some India sweetheart this is how it works I -- the bottom line is that you put the evidence together -- this -- sounds like a bit of an -- bomb himself.
I am not.
That's the question.
-- suspension perhaps.
-- feel that the ultimate sanction of losing his position.
I don't know I think there's more to this he's been with them since 1987.
Those comments are just not ones that I you typically see fire and be.
Morelli got -- -- the -- -- taken a lot of heat as having a dysfunctional culture as being you know sort of this you know frat house.
Four guys making comments like this and -- on.
Is this so unusual or is this actually just a real a reality sadly of the workplace is out.
I can't speak to that but I mean look at what's OK -- I will.
-- -- immediate reality ESPN this is you know we we've heard different incidents ESPN -- a male dominated business of sports.
So maybe there -- an -- there they're dealing with it -- and other companies are dealing with it but.
It's not so simple as you're making it out.
Mean they're trying to do the right thing again they wanna do the right thing for the organization and they looked at this there are there incidents apparently.
And as saying we can do nothing we'll get publicly vilified for that all we can take this action -- -- still get vilified.
But with changing the course we're changing the culture.
I guess they'll still and maybe they have to defend against that but that's the best for them in there -- That they -- -- very clear message the message for the other on -- -- now our guys thank you very much appreciate it.
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