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Good Friday afternoon everyone I'm Clayton Morris welcome to gadgets and games and welcome here to the man cave.
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Welcome to get -- -- -- gonna run down the biggest stories of the week in technology plus in addition to -- that are in the studio today had a chance to talk.
It gets -- -- the CEO of Evernote.
We're gonna talk about Evernote coming up in just a little bit but first let me introduce our guests of the week joining us via Skype from beautiful San Diego where it's seventy degrees every day -- Christensen -- The hosted a Mac -- he had a nice to see you as always.
And it's a -- -- Welcome back to oh and I was on your show this week that's article -- Mac cast was on early in the yeah absolutely it was posted yesterday people can check out our interview we talked about the I -- the last four announcement.
In studio is Michael -- -- back from the deep.
How do -- set you back finally in studio as always thank you Clinton -- How great technology analyst firm altimeter group and since we use actually switched up a job roles since he'd last been in here yeah partnered up some group and strategic consulting firm -- San -- and I -- those millions that's good news good so an -- to another coast.
And also -- with -- he is the editor in chief of engadget dot com as you can tell this is known to be found said.
-- If it's it's a basement -- Different.
Exactly this is -- like how are used to play super Nintendo back and edited just smiled and yes this is nice to sit in with the dark -- basement.
And -- -- all day when everyone was outside in the sun.
And Jeremy Kaplan is -- science and technology editor here at to foxnews.com.
And he's going to be moderating a chat room which is right there on the road right hand side of the page and gadgets and games to jump in.
Ask any questions -- -- and -- regarding telling us that they like -- oh great go right ladies out it there.
Nonstop blows you were fighting it and it just actually -- -- all right I know it's different actually our chat room compared to the engadget chat -- pretty interesting are.
Our our folks are kind of civil.
Which is bizarre.
I knew that they are on the Internet but when I listen via engadget podcast by the way great podcast if you never listen via engadget podcast.
Every week Jerry Josh seems to towards the end of every episode say I have no idea with a chat -- say -- -- -- idea.
I don't understand -- it's.
It's be noted that time varying their basements but you're an artist Edward.
Yeah are we got mics up and running that right -- You think you're.
So we can no -- and you penalize.
Are nosedive in the summer.
Stories of the week.
I'll put out there's a vote what you think some of the biggest stories of the week Microsoft's -- announcement biggest story of the week.
-- now I -- I understand you were almost a fifteen minutes late to the show today.
Because can only sinks every fifteen minutes actually is going to be my joke but just very stole this.
So you -- -- -- and I can go back -- we get sick and can't it's sort of the social -- experience from Microsoft it's really targeting what fifteen year old women.
-- What is this what is this device very excited about it.
It's not a good place for you probably the place for anyone watching us right now.
When people that we interact with its real thing that specific demographic wants specific functions.
And compelled to have prices housing market that it is things correctly basically.
We're moving beyond -- phone into something that's not quite Smartphone experience but we demographic that those ones.
We sometimes forget neither wants the thing that's true -- Adam do you think this is a good move I mean.
Trying to be maybe the anti Smartphones stepping away from everything that android trying to do everything that -- Lewis was trying to do everything iPhone is trying to do.
Yeah I think Microsoft needs to be something different and I think we're seeing it woke with the Windows Mobile.
Seven or green we talked about that the name of that seven -- we'll have that policy you created a name and yes and now this.
This is a totally different approach -- I think what with that earlier this rate I don't it doesn't necessarily targeted that someone like myself or somebody owns an iPhone.
So just a couple things stand out with can witches that it we're -- about the fifteen minute thing but it's not.
The point of the device.
Is that you're always connected yet but that dubious because you're not always connected well I mean it's it's.
The overall you -- -- -- -- If -- -- it.
It updates to their mean.
And you know that he is in.
I mean really for people here now that I think -- part of things that.
If people who they're selling it -- markets like it.
Update every five minutes.
If you're thinking about it it's not the phone -- right -- yeah.
But it is a demographic that says almost.
Yeah and weapon on him.
But those commercials -- -- house there now yeah.
That happens you realize full time people don't -- the pool and then you're your phone gets messed up your -- -- burning.
Bertrand -- and a question do cool.
Adam there's no apps there's no flash.
There -- no games on the device does this work keeping without younger group is the only thing I'm concerned about is is that he's texting and jumping on FaceBook.
I don't know I'm not really and how to effective packet that group directly so it's hard for me to -- but.
You know I -- the device tonight is this this the next coming of sort of the sidekick kinda that was kind of popular back -- -- -- Yeah what they say in the chat room manager meaning -- you know it's funny that we're all excited about Microsoft came on the new phone from new device it's.
Anything new is -- -- it's cheaper for us again -- but what but what a lot of people off button but it's just -- -- iPhone whereas Verizon.
When the new version of iPhone I think that's really -- -- mines in any way that Microsoft.
Just failed to do with it in line yeah.
Yeah I I don't know with it and it.
You know having the app store experience for sort of you cannot launch a phone anymore without you -- to Smartphone without the ecosystem of apps that you've got to have that avalanche of apps right now because that's all that anyone talks about.
So maybe perhaps being the sort of hockey puck.
Alternative form factor social networking phone.
Is is a win for them that have been the price tag on this thing too is what night night and we haven't -- oh that's right up price.
-- -- price but ultimately.
I -- that I regain -- -- -- -- -- the service but the plan.
I think that's one way and everybody I think -- They price.
It fifty girls can afford a thirty dollar month data plan -- -- not really and they really can't afford to buy apps all the time.
And their parents don't wanna buy the -- in the third -- data plan for the neither so if they -- -- a crisis and an aggressive way that.
Parents look at it and say -- from a sixteen year old kid or fifteen year old kid this is easy it's cheap and they can stay connected to friends do all this.
Texting and they're not gonna go over minutes what messaging -- -- over it is right.
It -- way they can yell at -- -- -- that the market -- minority so much.
My you know in iPhone buyers got my apps.
That got -- games and other devices I don't need everything on my phone so.
Market -- thinking a little differently.
That perhaps the mass market but -- -- price that they -- what sparked they've shot themselves in the foot completely.
I mean if it's -- if it's a hundred dollars for the device and in thirty dollars a month for data plan and forty bucks a month for the date for the voice.
This is not it's a real problem.
Because it's not smart and you wouldn't expect be paying spark a price we're talking to people who are gonna say.
I want to fill with all these neutered features -- but I'm gonna pay the thirty dollars a month data -- have to -- have to markedly.
You're gonna tell real compelling story and some of the marketing I agree has been little.
It's it's heavy candidates are perfect segue Michael -- -- We actually had a video via commercial.
And is Microsoft trying to sell sixteen.
Can look unlimited sector unlimited six feet under the American.
Because my if my.
-- he's against that we -- here's my question.
My question is this good.
This is an actually Garber and I had conversation about this this market and about -- -- this looks like the market looks like it's aimed at.
People in my age -- -- a little bit younger mid twenties right.
Disaster area right by it.
It's not aimed at those people write athletics it's it's operational.
That's all they want it to be.
They want it to be 25 year old to sort of abandon the Smartphone ecosystem -- now decide that's all we care and I don't think -- view I think in the opposite.
What -- I think going after more market but look.
The same way that some girls don't read.
I do I think about it perhaps Cooper and Michael that -- -- I mean so we know that those things there's an aspiration thing we want with when you'll.
I think you're get a repair record your job your -- we know in the there's some crossover and -- crazy video world rightly -- that -- I don't want to know but that's not real important market target market news.
Youth League team via media early ones but if you're here is ghastly sort of people because.
Pictures and so yeah you wanna take pictures of what underneath your shirt at -- he he saw -- video there I mean.
We think that ever -- it seems odd but it I think in a photo underneath their shirt.
-- that I that are standing you know I'm probably an -- at that age group but.
You know I'm I'm looking -- more the screen shots and seeing that some things like that and I think.
Panel sitting in on the head it's targeted at a much yarder younger audience.
And I think that's obvious spike if you look at Twitter and FaceBook and things like that we're talking about the updating earlier.
Those things are -- media it's you know instantaneous things like SMS and teens are very into that stuff.
I think I think that what is problematic especially.
Agree that it is -- were -- saying I think they're targeting younger.
And Microsoft knows and I think it's very clever of them do it this way but also I mean I immediately look at these guys see.
If only it you know I see that the user in very very bad situation -- people I mean they have they're doing things they follow the -- -- around right where she needs all her FaceBook friends in real life.
If she's an actor and her FaceBook friends are actors that I see right if I look at that I think it would be -- opportunity now but you know those people -- commercials and Coke commercials aren't really doing those things either -- their -- nobody's -- perfect compliment old but I think -- real no I believe.
I personally believe -- I don't see -- we're drinking soda.
Few drinks that I don't know what I what I want out of duke writing those people are extreme Mike I think they are they're real extreme people -- -- -- right.
I'll answer them of your social integration.
And this was animals so you really happened that this notion everything my own.
And whether you think that's the best and -- feature of this whole Lotta stuff here that if my -- it's way over to.
Windows phones it could be really feasible but a lot of it is already -- -- -- spent seventeen they have hubs for social networking they have on the tiles they're updating with your friends updates.
And their pictures are up -- and they're doing the same thing that's the most to me as it from.
My industry perspective it's.
Because they could at Microsoft could have said we're gonna make our own witness -- seven divide and -- as soon.
-- essentially and it's gonna be we're gonna heavily focused on the speaker Boris salad in the same way.
If we targeted certain demographic we've -- it apps and given it.
All Xbox Live stuff all that other -- and but I think what it comes down to who -- about the price point -- -- playing with people really want and mature.
My forms -- more desperate immigrants who work so.
Watchers aren't that immigrants that people want specific things there.
What and that they -- doesn't work because.
Always role was in and move so what's the science experiment to some degree too expensive and I do think would have been out correctly that maximum if you look at the -- I mean -- -- can -- that pre -- on who.
And it says.
This video brought -- by hand a new kind of windows from Microsoft or somebody that -- to -- referred to the candidate.
As a -- right so I think that there is that there's going to be a point of bird but I don't think they're in it would maintain.
It's in the year two years well done here but two -- three years down the road.
-- we're gonna be over 50% where people are what that -- 30%.
It's I think that's growing you know I thought to getting cheaper yeah and Microsoft and Obama -- Microsoft can do.
They've got the money to be able to play around like this one company that doesn't right now is Paul.
Palm is a great job offensively I.
I think I've got about forty story go to try to get to so all right moving on to -- -- moved to palm quickly though Bloomberg reported at -- -- seeking bidders.
Lenovo HD CDL among those mentioned as likely suitors Adam what do you think.
What would they be buying.
And that that's a big question grade I mean may well who did the experiment and it didn't really go anywhere forum it was kind of exciting because they had Jon Rubinstein over there and everybody was looking at what they were doing they went with the web -- thing.
And it big it didn't succeed and everybody knew it was kind and the last thing for -- -- they were gonna do this and and if it didn't work they were likely going to be but I don't I don't know what's left over them.
It is web OS the intellectual property what is it judgment I know you you've talked about sort of like I saw your post a few weeks ago how home and what's -- itself is yeah I'm Ayers unless that -- -- I had another set of and things that were so great right.
I did but it is like a survival guide your begin to -- but it all okay so on not only has -- which I think -- judgment that that I think it is.
You with within it the right hand the more money.
That can be turned into absolutely the -- Mobile operating system I think it really is like going for it but not just web OS but they have a lot of patents.
They that have there are very directly.
Very directly in the end of the world of Smartphones and devices that pat -- uranium battle without really easy home has.
It -- really answering that question because if it's -- it would be something that -- arsenal to say you can't come after us with rigor because of does that and.
Really devoid of news that immediately and negate the lawsuit if apple good if if -- DC buys home is that pretty much say.
It doesn't negated because again -- figure out whose patents -- what whose cross licensing what -- the -- -- money.
-- it was gone for twelve and at the end right there be some cross licensing deal and some won't -- someone you know rated ship probably.
The reason your volumes up through your minds for VIP buying engineered one important brands still.
Really strong in the mass market you may be not as much you can get -- -- look at it -- -- we'll have pretty closely here.
And -- palm device while one has pretty fond memories of it yet on members of the brand promise that is that that the home users are they've dwindled in numbers.
And there also.
I mean a lot of that moved on but I think you're also still talking about small pool -- -- Now you look at the iPhone.
Are there more trios in the market -- -- It's a tough sell right now on the market because the companies not because she.
Mark caps aren't even one dollars and by the time you're done via -- little buzz for 250 million no brainer.
58 becomes questionable eight to about -- billion.
What you're really getting help -- -- but obviously that's one of the options -- -- yet we saw private equity firm buying 10% yeah on this week are they buying it.
Two because they want in -- -- it because if it's Alan let.
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And when it didn't want -- -- -- but of economics at the -- more phones that.
Heart -- they should have been.
Well it's you -- know hard not a big story this week -- Twitter Library of Congress has acquired the entire archive and Twitter updates all the way back to march 2006.
And and Google's getting into the game two but Adam first -- -- ask you that you concerned that your very first tweet from 2006 is now archive.
Along with great literary works in The Library of Congress likes -- -- The row and Shakespeare.
And yet it's a little bit disturbing.
There have been hit and I'm flattered yet the Federalist papers and my -- The producers scholars.
And well how come I can't get my archives.
-- -- worked very hard all my stuff is gone but it's good to -- -- now I think you know due to Haniyeh -- -- you to -- I think she actually wrote if I'm not mistaken I think she actually -- a great.
-- great program you can actually get access to all your -- really adamant they were try to go back and try to find your.
Might later Chris you know if you buy -- that's that was out there and I kind of forget about it you can't remember you said.
If you -- -- -- I don't know I want to you today but here the first.
I think -- yeah.
My first week was awkward.
That's just the work you know it was just -- it was a little it was my first time it was a little awkward.
It was it's exactly -- it was -- sixteen -- I don't I think I think like most weeks it was.
I don't know what I'm doing on here.
Is there an expatriate that we name this -- a sweet sweets and we've and you heard it here for the I'm going going to -- it's not.
I don't think it's -- -- they -- actually have access to all I mean look I was a history major in college and and one of the things that I was you know find fascinating is.
To be accessed information is is it is important.
And interview me being able to go back years and years to look at -- the mood of of the country what people were saying.
At large sort of this metadata about cultural events is pretty fascinating.
And imagine having this type of service imagine having -- Twitter like service back during.
You know the civil war -- turn of the century.
-- I like it.
Yeah you must get into the afternoon and ahead -- -- McClellan is pulling it down thing.
McClellan didn't chase after Lee what's wrong with that mother effort yeah I didn't.
An opponent would Britney went right -- and replied I think you know I think what you think you'll see if Twitter continues to be where we use it for years -- -- -- You'll see this archive you'll be able to watch these huge.
Tidal waves of people -- that other people -- It's in the gigantic tidal wave at me that so it's died of Jackson and that everything and then everything in between because really what people want to talk about -- -- -- My I think any future star of wonder what are fascination with this Ashton -- so we I have had an illustrator go back -- -- that it gets you through vehicles that we don't.
Yeah don't get it we're good -- it.
-- it -- it Kevin Costner.
Was that Richard here.
We'll take a little break here -- Chance to it's doubled earlier this afternoon with.
The CEO of Evernote.
The service that I think a lot of misuse of marine base is here -- used to tag quite of quite a few things.
-- -- was in town and had a chance sit down and and find out what they're working on.
-- what is happening now what -- I've had app which is beautiful by the way.
Take a look.
Thanks so much Clayton power to -- to myself.
As promised we are here with Evernote CEO Phil -- who is in town for a big panel over the we.
This past week grates it felt great to be here quick thank you press you here for a panel in New York on.
Competition in in startups.
We had our first ever New York event.
Notable NYC demand and we -- a panel on the other -- competition in startups.
So right now for our audience is not familiar with Evernote now.
I must say I use it every day multiple times and -- For the show I I -- of all the time.
And I rely on it to go back and find notes because I don't know what computer I'm gonna be on buffer for the person who's not like -- who hasn't used it regularly how would you describe.
To that person well our goal Evernote is to build an external brain for everyone basically figured it's few billion people weren't fully satisfied with -- normal.
Brains they want to remember more.
And seven autism is a product that you use just follows you around that your life and -- anything usually happens do you should just be able to effortlessly capture it.
And that's it and then you just sort of have the warm comfortable feeling that you've got it you remember it -- -- you'll find that from.
Every single phone computer device anything that you -- now that you have -- -- the future.
I admitted -- friends with a girl and -- today we were we were chatting and she said I have I have ever known in my phone it's the elephant.
Right I haven't I haven't used to -- a white when he he has and I said.
And I try to walker through she's -- need to start using it so for her she's downloaded it she's not sure how it fits into a life.
Do you use case for how evident -- what's written -- -- her life she's on the go businesswoman.
Well so -- -- It's very I live -- it.
I use it every time meet someone take a picture -- business card it's the only way to remember people anymore now Evernote.
Recognizes the text right and it makes it searchable later you know intellectually saying we take a picture phone or computer or camera -- -- fleecing of Tor servers into full recognition on the taxi to find that.
But also it also remembers location we're we're -- if you remember the big idea but -- as you say.
Well you know I remember I was in Paris about three years ago -- I was having lunch and thousands who has cafe -- had a napkin.
With a name and phone number if we wanna find that -- right now.
Over under the name in the -- could assertion that that'll give me a picture of the -- you know with the points in -- -- and Brett.
But I don't remember the name and I could just say well show -- everything from Paris for three years ago and you know it doesn't things will come up and others might bring a kick in -- Clinton wants nothing.
But if I don't remember where was -- remember any other thing any of the whole continues to pull up that memory.
Without worrying about you know what phone that -- have -- computer to to have where is that because it's always there would.
And again for our viewers who aren't familiar you guys are on just about every platform so I could.
Open safari jacket open chrome yet at Evernote is there how is it -- in that house and on my iPhone.
The goal is if we really gonna be a backup for your brain it needs to be everywhere your brain is it just needs if you were you are.
So this there's a web service and all the information is synchronize up for web service that and it's also copy down to negative.
Clients on -- device so we have you know windows software -- offer iPhone iPad android you know Palm -- pretty much everything.
Customers and we've developed and they all synchronized with a -- but they don't get your data and make it available locally.
So that wherever you argued it happens to be there.
That's great so lets you guys have rolled out some new features of course on the I've had -- -- -- there on the day of launch.
So that like developing for the -- before you had and I patted hands that was really.
It was really terrifying and and really fun you know we were all.
Huge geeks of the company's though you know -- -- super excited when apple announced -- pandering -- glued to him to our monitors you know hitting refresh and on the blogs yeah.
Right it's that you don't need to agree you don't need to hit F five anymore you can just spent the -- -- update real time distributed to make sure you know on the big music -- got -- yet make sure.
And that we were super sites as soon as as soon as they announced that we said yeah we're gonna support it and we have sixty days -- -- it happened what didn't happen iPad.
So we you know we we cut out of his carport.
Of the dimension to the I've had -- print -- out what street -- look like me.
Duct tape tomorrow to the car boredom would carry the carver on the part and that it was and I happen poked at it and that's -- we spent that time.
Analysts sixtieth the most hectic of high energy Disney company but it it worked out great -- Right in the store launch today you guys ruled out an update a pretty big update.
Fixed a lot of bugs obviously didn't have a device that a lot of companies are dealing with that now this and it'll -- much everyone but yeah but it's and it's and a good state at this point.
It's if it's a really fun environment to develop on and it's -- is that the iPhone -- of the most handsome versions of about race the first one ever really thought through how it should look and feel the scientist and -- we're gonna take a lot of those ideas and implement them.
You know the other versions so holdover -- -- as attractive polished and just for our.
Viewers in just a minute we're gonna actually show you we're gonna get the little hands on time and have -- come on over here and he's gonna do little over the shoulder walk through the -- -- which is gorgeous by the way.
But first -- to the person who's concerned about cloud based storage.
Yet everything is moving to the clout sure you've got stuff store on Google documents you bookmark stuff on delicious and store stuff and Evernote.
To the person who's worried about having a backup for the brain on the -- with the cloud goes down what do you say to those -- Well so.
-- notes -- really.
A hybrid model -- so we're we're both cloud based they have local so all of your notes and thoughts are actually stored locally in your computer there on your local -- revenue PC or Mac.
And the -- in the cloud and you -- we have pulled back up some really.
You're your memories are stored in many different places you can always get them -- a lot of somewhere it is and that your relying on the network being there.
Which which also means that -- in fitness to be down or it could be in your city you can get a connection to -- use Evernote could you have local copies.
-- many of the of of the devices and platforms.
But also we have extremely tight security and privacy policies we never look through your data.
We don't share your -- -- one.
I'm like a bunch of other companies we don't have any sort of clever.
Business model that relies on us making sense of your data we don't use it to you know drive affiliates your way to do -- -- -- -- everything I bet it's your memories it's your thoughts.
It's an Evernote it's private it's -- for -- how's it different from other cloud based storage solutions or being able to share documents like on drop box.
Some of the other popular solutions out there for sharing data but drop -- great company and the commodities -- all -- all the time without.
Back I think it -- -- great integration between two companies.
Evernote really does a very very broad statement we say everything's sticking your brain -- watch real Kevin -- so it's one place for all of your web clips and whenever you see.
Something on the web the -- -- and you can clip it goes into Evernote.
You've got your business cards you know why labels recipes.
Things you eat people -- -- just notes that you take it -- meeting.
All of that in one place there isn't any other service that really -- -- on.
Memory there's a bunch of other services that do specific things well Brent Andersen partner with a lot of those -- -- PI to provide a lot of those kinds of capabilities inside -- Evernote for.
-- -- Right now for those again of our viewers are familiar gonna walk through the I've had half right now -- it which is great about this is yet if you can.
Take photos you can do voice -- -- to -- -- digging voice notes.
Handwritten notes all of that.
All in one place so take us through the app here this is this is a new -- had -- Sure so.
You launches up here.
And what you immediately see this is all my notes so I've been using it with about two years -- the coming up on a two year anniversary.
And this is the past two years of my life and everything that's happened to me the past two years of life is just all in here.
You know book signing -- in Japan -- things that aid and business cards everyone I met and all my notes it was actually.
Really really satisfying just to be able to run my fingers through the past three years -- life.
And -- tagging all of that stuff see you might target Japan you might have it yet.
You have different notebooks are different tags so for example a better notebook of comic books.
So gonna notebook we're just cut out ads from 1963 Spiderman comic books there's some also -- he's built like mail order monkeys.
So like there was the sudden they live monkeys by mail we -- -- -- -- but he shows up.
Okay go wrong that you're clipping that from the web and storing your hero were you taking photos of that you could you could devote some of these are the pictures that it -- with a camera.
All of you know comic books that I had to go -- there so that it clip from.
A CD-ROM or or or website.
-- of course you can search and search for monkeys and appointed you know in the image so you could actually be doing textual search here you might search.
Buy monkeys for 1999 and -- find this particular photos on your whole.
Break yet Evernote brain Britney -- so sometimes you know they just forget what the what the number to call us at mail order a multi.
It's always that you always evident back up its.
It's shows your food like you wouldn't sit you have to take photos of food and you're in Japan's I love this demonstration here yes so -- The go to Japan quite a bit here we're getting very popular parents of the notebook that says everything native -- -- tolerate anything in Japan to take a picture of it and it immediately goes -- Evernote.
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- And I can share this actually sent this URL to my friends and most of my mom so you know some of my mom always asking me it would be foolish to get the nation that has a URL that you -- -- doesn't mean that it up five registered refreshes automatically as you can see.
Everything at a meeting and -- meeting illnesses.
Part of my wife's memory like it is really really satisfying to remember -- yet I was that giant grapes and the -- -- that I bought in the grocery store in the hotel underneath my hotel in Osaka.
It's okay but that's great summer.
What else is of much for practical things -- -- meeting notes.
All of my files and working aboard presentation Altman research goes in here so through a combination of.
Work stuff and personal stuff it's it's my life.
Yeah your brain backed up -- like that.
-- it and it was great to meet you check out Evernote and go to Evernote dot com you can go to the iTunes store you can download the -- they're free.
That's one that absolutely free at any get a premium service to -- -- -- -- the revenues of reprieve.
For the rest your life and -- Nice to meet you thanks so much -- you first look at Evernote on the new -- Thank you so much Clayton.
The greater the great interview.
Will be right back -- chat about -- never know we come back after the break.
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- I use -- -- just to throw stuff in there I use third.
Photo feature a lot you know take little photo notes and reminders like he was mentioning in the peace and continued geo -- and and I can remember the location of things though.
They see something interesting -- -- ready to buy it -- -- often snapped a picture of it remember note that I know where to go back and get that I can put the price -- and little reminders.
Yeah you know one of the things and we were talking during the interview here which is that.
You know it's asked for a token I look at Evernote -- -- I wanna be that organized if I can start using all the tools that are in there you know I take some photos one of the books or -- I wanna -- -- that I have the front cover and and I remember at -- you know -- -- books to read.
Or graphic novels or whatever it is but there's a lot of stuff the functionality that I just don't end up using and I wish I could use.
-- -- They hit them up on -- Either rate yet we think the person that it's amazing organized -- -- -- I just take the picture uploaded ever read the data -- so great at one -- -- one person but birthday yeah but it's hard sewn on it pops up that person.
We were all talking about how in guard -- have the same problem is it's it's not part of a work float -- go to -- and here it's -- -- These are -- I don't think it'll be really easy with having bookmark let's all over the place you have a little you know elephant bookmark went on safari and on and on Google Chrome yet they have on all the multiple you have multiple devices you have on your -- so.
As you start using it more because I think you could take the place of a lot of crap kind of sticky notes and random stuff that I have sitting around my desk and I'm gonna try to see if I can actually do this that's I -- it might need you.
-- resolution and it's I think if but I think it's great when it doesn't I love it if cattle logging catalog and things by photo that it would need to do is.
How a step where you take the pictures -- send effort.
You know it said or just sends it automatically and don't have to think value you have to go to Evernote -- it's not to him until we have to do where you can -- -- specific address that and it sends it to your Evernote account that it is that I think.
Adam do you know more about that does it send it directly through email account.
They have that feature had to have the features that have a normal only devices I have -- -- -- I have it on my Mac I have it on my iPhone.
So it's it's right there anything you I think -- I think with Joshua with -- seeing is.
Integration with other things is missing so.
Something like instant paper.
I'm big into using has that integrates with my Twitter client so I would agree if I'd probably use them more if I could send it from certain kinds of apps and things like.
Under other apps and you might you'll think that it wants to plug and other places that he does bigger thing it does here there we were talking earlier sort of during the interview -- -- I -- what has built in let's it's.
Part of it mobile me and it was in the -- was you know this sort of wrapping I think the defendant here count.
That's the kind of integration where it would just be a no brainer I think it -- -- it.
Any questions and chat about what we've been debating the terms of service agreements one -- -- to comment that that Evernote claims -- ownership over all of your.
All of your and he put up on the site and then just wouldn't notice -- -- refer to the terms of service in the android -- knowledge that.
Hasn't demonstrated provisions -- Google.
Yeah I -- Regard birdies -- Michael possibly Google as I thought it.
It would be with the common purpose and it that your your whatever you upload average of intellectual property of Africa or your notes along to us that -- -- -- if that's true I don't know if it is the you know this doesn't sound right -- sound -- -- -- -- but it might have heard about it before you can check if that is true.
If he's not in use eight ever did -- work it bluntly that.
Wool we'll check with the folks and I'm sure that that we're gonna get some resentment because if that's true -- very interesting and if it's not -- we can be slandering.
-- -- -- let's not -- down that -- -- that the damage yeah I thought okay let's talk about the slide HD.
The little on boxing here the chance when this is true about them going -- week -- a million bucks real boxing but.
The new flip HD.
For those of you who aren't familiar with -- formerly pure digital which used to make flip which was bought out by Cisco I guess last year around this time.
April or so march of last year of 2009.
I'm not impressed with this device.
Because slander him with them away.
Yeah you like you I really did it -- -- -- that.
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Batter into the all over the original 2007 model like they've gone backwards that they're right it's actually thicker than needed to Selma if it's thicker by almost an additional flip -- it's like if you -- the flip -- on top of the original.
That's what Octavia together so I.
I -- in your pocket it I think it exactly and I just wrote a column for foxnews.com which is an account here it's going to be we will have it up in and -- -- -- -- Suzuki off here but.
-- outlook -- -- for a week I think for far field.
I'm a huge fan of the flip cameras but it's awkward.
This kept popping open in my pockets -- the slide this sliding camera which is supposed to enable you to watch videos.
Sitting down on the table I think one accurately eight bit rate but what what that you don't want -- sitting around watching on that screen in a group said it -- -- about copiers it is.
And I mean honestly.
This incentive than this that and then the whole beauty of this product was.
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Meeting ubiquitous and -- always have that we view.
Yeah this is a huge step I think they've lost money it is in my my -- that I pointed out was gratuitous portability and ease of use and what I said was you know.
What made -- incredible to begin with was the portability factor and they've gone he regressed on portability and they -- -- on ease of use so here just to show you as an example right.
It's a touch screen so I should -- to be able to come through these videos left to right and I can't.
It's that I had to come down here to this bar.
And come across the -- doesn't -- allow me to do it up here why.
When I do it doesn't allow that is -- touch -- this is it does its registry is it simply plays a video so there's this disconnect between the form factor to do it it's like that you know where you.
Yeah exactly -- you want it to be more all right very or two of all that changed.
Durable -- no I've not had your pockets is gonna break I mean what is the theory -- is that this is -- myth that I've always answer I believe it put this in the market I think it's a perfect beautiful example of me large company taking a smaller companies product.
By the company completely separated out of elegant products that really the target market that we're dead on that has evolved really nicely.
And then it was over here.
I have this looks like yeah let's let's let's -- all we need is a touch screen and who cares if it's now two inches -- if you look at the original touch -- this is almost how the original.
Now the digital controls and and when I touched it a number of times he it it's not responsible are and -- it was not a time -- screen and it's.
And -- have like a ton of 12 videos on here because.
I don't know what it's starting.
And a touch it five times now and it's not starting when I needed to start which is a problem plus the -- is also terrible and direct someone to the south to the park it's very difficult to see.
-- say -- really am proud of I I'm actually glad you're here now I hear you talk about -- say this could come December we're going to be talking about this morning.
With nobody -- -- good life.
Everyone about -- I think I think it's really.
It's depressing to me I hope that.
Hope that they see what's going on what the reaction from people on this device and learn from where they need to let that the but let guys get back to doing but the next one camp what is anything like this what Wi-Fi what does this any wireless.
The only thing is it obviously -- of system you.
-- -- Great Wi-Fi.
Connected into your device you can just stream it.
Or upload directly -- your competitor not reluctant and Adam gee I can't -- jump in on this I mean I have -- also you know the only thing different on this is a four is the capacity sixteen it's sixteen -- so for -- -- -- that's about four hours of video.
-- -- -- -- I -- a huge.
That -- and I have a clip might mean -- -- on everything and I absolutely love it and I would be it to add to what everybody thirty saying what I was the first time I've seen this.
The problem is is they just -- -- touch screen on the back and what I love about my split is is it's really durable though I've actually moved away I have my -- that shoots video on a shoot video with my iPhone.
But -- I want something that's can -- rugged they can just toss in a bag and not worry about I think but let.
And it's great for shooting video on the go I don't have to didn't mess with it it's one button click you mentioned that touch interface doesn't work as well yeah.
So it's just it doesn't seem to make that -- things like they're going the wrong direction.
Adam brings a great point because this touch interface here right when I'm flipping around -- Michael -- -- -- most people are outside if you have pulled back a little bit enough to use case for this for a lot of people flip.
Which is -- a little bit more or take a wide -- -- -- if you would.
This is how most people just to watch out of the room if you would -- it.
Most people are shooting video of it like this right they put their arms out to do it a one handed -- generation -- right and I cannot.
I cannot by doing that find out what my finger is hitting.
This thing that is this is this I mean.
Point that was just made.
The whole idea of these.
Don't have to worry about them high quality look at that -- in your pocket.
And go with I mean these are great for what we're what we're doing -- -- yes.
No frantic -- here and throwing it back -- -- get you quickly.
Didn't think about it and no brainer at this makes it into a struggle because that's an important thing is nine dollars -- mr.
-- -- someone -- -- the someone came up with -- -- somewhat approve this time you.
So what's that -- this thing this -- to pass this is gonna work this is what the next triggered.
Yeah this and it's very well.
There were manipulated to exactly.
Apologize and move on -- -- back to the problem with having something like that is some Stephen company Griffin.
I do I use -- with many of personable and videos you've got gloves on fun thing yeah you go to the -- -- handers are outlined their -- -- you can use that thing -- -- good point we -- from -- got high definition great -- got -- well here you go from any one else here where you go from it you step up to the plate and do what the Kodak Z -- eight which I still think is the better video camera they and the flip -- line.
You've got a microphone out.
You've got an audit got -- -- headphone Jack you've got to.
True 1080 I or 1080 I think it's -- 1080 X 1080.
And you have you have a microphone Jack.
You have an external SD cards you can pull the EST yeah it might you know Mike in autism I -- that it's seen yes running around running -- -- grabbing interviews.
That's sort of an evolution of a product -- or -- -- -- yeah.
I think there won't is that it sorts taking them out of that notion of simplistic terms -- simplicity.
For features that people want you -- do what you pointed out.
Anderson let's keep it simple but -- -- -- well.
This which I think still pictures but why I think they'll -- the I think it's a no -- -- -- -- -- this unit plugged anymore it'll say.
When you get here on network but apparently there -- think automatically upload the stuff.
Do you can tell you yeah what does he would why that's it.
It's just as your partner -- -- Cisco's first really big consumer product.
Play these two of his birthday -- yes -- -- -- let's move on some other topics.
We'll talk some tablets are actually little bit of breaking news that engadget.
Our good friends we know anybody from engadget I got their hands on -- tablet -- pictures take a look at some what it needs Josh.
Yes so this interesting.
-- go away.
Some other public.
Not just does not mean by.
These guys and I actually just that we were -- -- I was -- offices and went to check the site and thought.
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- So why it hurt me -- dot net it -- say hey yeah.
I just found out they'll make another.
Seven and and -- -- this was yesterday -- your.
And it that this proxy showing off to yet and I think it's I think -- it's gonna become varies -- you mark what that is about CI.
God gave you it's going to be a disease or real talent competition I think.
We saw this other -- the patent.
You know now the -- five we have we've got one and it's about it's unfit.
It's not about little device I think.
-- android really make it -- use.
Give it -- -- people want it right right it will be a true competitor after Adam what -- -- -- but that's it.
They just go to great user experience at top of interim build great applications I think price it right but I think.
Yeah that everything does get the right you're the hardware and I think the -- that -- built from eyewitness.
I don't like for a netbook.
I do you think that is right I mean look at look at -- Do stock and then you have to really do the details because the -- been raised about what and optimize -- experiences now -- that's exactly have been that it that -- -- They -- state.
They're not just you -- it looked at -- -- -- -- -- for example we don't think right.
Yeah exactly and is that is that the real hurdle here Adam -- for other companies to jump -- actually -- to do something it's not just throwing the stock operating system on one of these devices.
Absolutely absolutely I think more companies are getting into trouble when me look at what Apple's doing and they go to compete is and they miss.
Is that they don't compete on the experience.
They look at the technology and go okay we're gonna be better technology we're gonna throw in more USB ports up front facing camera you know those are all nice things and those are good differentiators.
But ultimately it doesn't mean anything if the experiences that so.
I would totally agree taking operating system like endure it and really customizing it so that it works for this new type of device vitamin tablet seems like.
-- -- general term to me it's almost a new kind of computing platform and we need a new operating system and overall experience that makes it work right.
And apple -- shown you can do with the iPad.
And I think Dell and others are gonna need to look at that and go what's the experience and let's let's duplicate and compete with that make it better.
I was is that on I think that what Dell has got to do these other manufacturers have the option view that apple has not been done.
It really make -- right experience for don't just.
It's let's be honest it is just the iPhone experience on -- admittedly there a lot of the third party apps and even first party -- take advantage of it but.
In general the operation of the device that mean you lie it's all just like the -- Tablets are -- -- -- different kinds of devices they require I think there's room for different -- there action.
And two I think it ought to opportunity here at the window for that for other people to get into this game has to make you experienced exactly that's -- thing.
The experience really good but also they experience for tablet think about it right if you're gonna use the tablet how you how -- -- -- -- used that savage spree the.
Have you don't have done such a great job.
On android phones from what we've seen as elves are elves so it doesn't give me a warm and fuzzy feeling about how they're gonna going to a brand new space because phones some of dollars and pretty basic help that note from another -- -- they're not -- -- operative.
But that's promise to do this correctly you have to be in the software business you have to -- bill was user experiences Gary what are people -- We have a great question commander here which is that given what we've seen of other tablets are coming out the -- thing that the we've -- whatever it is viewed stuff.
What do you guys think it worth.
Picking up by and by and I had today we're just saying Apple's gonna do better than ever else where you were holding off waiting for its next on the road.
You know that's -- thing it and I love what Jesus sells that a few weeks ago which is if you're always waiting for a next generation of the device he always waiting for somebody else to do it better.
You're eventually someone's gonna do it better -- it could be a year but you could wait till the end of eternity until someone actually you know you're always waiting for the next generation of products so.
I don't know I mean user experience of the -- -- for me we are talking off camera a little bit Josh you're.
Not -- canceled your three G order I love my -- and -- can't wait for my three G.
I find that that's the best way to use it is in -- browsing the web sitting on account browsing you know news headlines and so forth.
Not using it for the heavy lifting you're looking well I think I think I think that Apple's gonna.
Apple has done rate they still a ways -- -- -- perfect and I think that it spells.
Point you know I read you always that's always having been around a -- they came up with the first device in this category you know I'm never between devices that really justified your existence.
But it -- back here you can with what you know hey you buy a Mac before that you held -- Abide by half and nobody got it right audio lot more I hear one report I thought it was just a reflection of you have -- the -- Or thirty years about god and I've had not I don't think I would I wouldn't that somebody has got that -- -- If -- 500 dollars in you anything you like it yeah.
That I think it's a good investment it's only going to get better -- company that works I mean they typically down they make this stuff better the iPhone.
Now first -- ritualized is there night in the same.
City but I would iPhoto its four comes out and I think that's true the iPad that's I'm waiting until four is available I'm just.
Don't need it right now because three.
With 3.2 on -- I can do you back to meet your needs and you didn't eat anything you can get your value out of it than absolutely there rethink my weight is the product better on the market right now I would say -- all else we obviously yeah we've dealt salad because it might be better I mean if you like the -- -- -- you think you'll get used out of it will.
If you want one question -- -- has they'll announce the price -- it.
I don't think we have a president having announced it has -- been announced president of the united although I had no because they're -- hall engadget is saying.
We could -- -- seven -- On the horizon the ten inch.
It in the distance and -- at a price you can imagine the -- and yet at what price they're not gonna prices that.
I mean they're putting it right on it so it's basically free.
Well and hit they're giving it up and have a software developers -- -- point 20 last.
I think it's gonna in the same program.
To build off on top they're gonna needed -- marketplace for applications because you can get android market place on tablet on -- won't give it to you man of the -- restrictive.
Meet people on the -- -- must -- and -- -- more important horrible attack tablet like stock entry -- you don't.
It's a terribly -- -- here for -- -- lives ecosystem of apps.
And let's talk about some other apple news this week animal turned the tables to you a little bit here couple big announcements or 11 of -- is a rumor that iPhone for could be announced -- June 22 which.
Obvious and normal given with their current schedule right.
-- -- so we wouldn't expect to see it on a new iPhone and very likely that's gonna happen this summer.
June timeframe I don't know specifically about the 22 planet yet around that time parent should be correct.
-- says that apple has book -- before a center for the -- for that -- which is the that's where the last three iphones and of course the -- it was also announced but what do you take the MacBook pros -- think -- we've all had a chance to play with a new MacBook pros this week I had some hands on time early this week and went through.
The run through very similar of the current unibody but just a heck of a lot faster right.
-- everybody's been waiting on this new core I five I seven processors that the other manufacturer -- Apple's had a delay -- there's a lot of speculation as to why that might have been.
They have some huge -- -- all when he -- specifically in the thirteen inch that was custom done by Nvidia for the graphics.
And so they got be dedicated graphics they integrated graphics on the fifteen in the seventeen.
I'm with the new auto switching options so that really helps optimize the batteries so apple saying ten hours of battery life I think of these models which is incredible I I think we'll have to wait to see if that's a reality.
It would all of them on the thirteen we tested -- is 889.
We got back -- get back out now than they did it and that I don't think that.
I don't think we're -- -- I've had level battery.
Time now -- that claiming ten in the thirteen that I haven't tried the thirteen now.
-- a little bit of a stretch again dependent uses battery life from a substance or and it still -- heard all the way down if you're doing in my life I -- flat right.
And -- obviously no fly -- -- matter what your battery run down I think it's it real I think I.
You're talking -- very light use case and you say you.
When your enemy and they say well -- -- ours might use this -- Ours is really shooting.
They can get how much more -- -- wound up.
Pretty good idea user experience overall overall -- -- on the speed of the new MacBook Pro line -- was little teeth -- that's what we're.
Kind of grab the integrated you know graphics which is an argument on Apple's Byrd went out there technology.
That now yes not the optimist and I don't operate really wanted right -- enhanced.
Battery -- Lots of little details that I think other companies wouldn't bother with this is one reason why people become that apple thought that your gonna -- because of this.
But you find these things in attentive electorate the town's growing.
So they had -- -- -- initial source they have these little details that just make you smile when you see the features and it's one more reason what people pay the apple tax.
Staying that they of these laptops is the higher resolution display it.
And I've been waiting for apple to offer some layoffs since the resolution.
-- in Pittsburgh for eight.
And he finally can get 1686 -- yet if -- which is amazing I mean action news or if you have if you held off.
Now you -- part -- or seven and iris -- That's it pretty if you were gonna buy it's pretty good thing to do it yet -- this is a big I mean that's a big move those displays -- Yeah absolutely they're really gonna gorgeous and they also still have the option from the -- which is very important for the professional market.
Photographers things like that so yes compared to fifty dollar tax on that I think as well but it it's worth it for a lot of people but where I have -- You love your -- them -- yeah I met oddly.
I cannot get back I was actually I don't want him back but I was -- -- final action on the he really dominated.
It's not that great experience -- Black it's so lost you're -- your faithful.
And I find it to be actually block screen movement -- the problem.
The glossy screen -- what are you people.
Apple has moved from you know originally -- up at the MacBook pros the glossy -- yeah.
We somebody asked a question -- that makes it what it.
You know we've -- an option in which the reflections from -- when you hit the -- built literally I think socialist and he said.
The screen -- you just -- the screen you don't reflection.
Moon yeah army -- found voice.
But an apartment they call it.
Anti glare which means that they've become whatever -- think of others greens are led by definition they're -- -- if you put -- all.
There's a segment down ice and looking at themselves in the computer.
Lives you know Johnson BI I can't watch -- sitting there trying to type on that out in the sun.
Yeah underneath without it that's and that's a -- -- but you're still -- -- ask Ryan Block about his.
But it was glossy is right we've talked about a lot via -- if you get if you get want to do anything.
I just it.
You later but as you reflect I like yeah I just.
Some reason I like that I use the glossy I had -- commodity and I are looking at myself so Alex Alex decreased.
Crispness of the school colors you can I have ahead of that screen for a long time and I just think the -- -- I don't often went into hiding and where you're working line because if you do get the light on the wrong way I've heard it right and that's been my my office very brightly yeah and and so on.
In the dark -- then it'll work -- -- -- and that's why it's happening here and yeah okay that's an animal you don't like song or a glossy.
Well I -- the -- Fifteen -- so I didn't have an option for -- if if I had I would've gotten it because I have to tell you that if you have any if you're equipped with overhead fluorescent lights yeah forget it.
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