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That is they have only briefly Kitty Kelley is a renowned -- -- He's written books about the royal family the bush dynasty Jackie Onassis Nancy Reagan Frank Sinatra.
She's a best selling author many times over and she is now written the book no one else -- right.
Oprah Winfrey is that courses are to the book called Oprah biography kitty thanks for coming on.
I'm sorry to start laughing but I heard that they.
Yeah I know every.
How typical is -- -- -- get this done we ever threaten any -- and say don't do it warn you off I mean that new.
Yes everybody from my agent and my editor to my publisher was very very hard.
To even as well.
Everything he didn't get purchased.
That and I understood that that you know Oprah is the guiding lines in publishing and she's just.
And she's made millionaires multi many years have writers.
And publishers and he's brought literacy and reading to millions of people -- of course.
Publishers did not want an unvarnished biography.
-- Oprah Winfrey.
That's how I found a woman who who believed -- why did -- -- she admired Oprah Winfrey I do too.
And she -- They're really should be a book about the most powerful woman in the world.
Tell particularly against him and -- that -- shows little -- on because they don't wanna offend Oprah Winfrey.
Now that is quite true on the other hand I mean there -- people who who absolutely close their doors.
-- They're people who.
You don't believe in the First Amendment and wanted to hear what we're seeing the.
This thing I think about what kitty Kelly's doing a book and you you gotta run for the hills is that.
It's pathetic is that something and you see that as part that is party reputation right yeah.
It is part America -- yeah and I'll tell you line because.
I really believe in doing -- -- I -- this Willard unauthorized biography because it just sounds.
But it's unlikely.
I've really improved three decades I've been writing biographies of living -- times without their cooperation.
Without their control.
Now -- people that are are not nearly celebrities but you titans as a society.
And I believe.
The public at the right to understand.
Mark -- the people who -- influence that and you know I've chosen to write about these.
But -- what is it about do you that has people nervous.
I don't know because there -- -- -- -- nothing short fat girl that I saw yesterday you know that's not true rebels in black and carrying bombing in high heels -- -- -- -- -- of this thing I mean the Internet is it that you go for the dirt is it to -- the unvarnished truth is it that you -- what makes you so frightening to people.
And I suppose it's because the subjects don't have any control over what I'm going to right.
Now Alan I have never ever.
-- in particular industry news to the lawyers.
Light my books truly.
Like frogs on the phone.
And I have to document every single word in my -- you might not like what our right to but it is documenting human history.
Ocala Florida but our.
President let's talk about Oprah because -- -- about -- we have such a short times and you get up an early morning but the look what's.
I think in order to begin what is it that what's the mystery what's she hiding what is it that the confidentiality agreements the Stedman Graham the Gayle King.
What what's she afraid -- -- it is important thing.
Companions there's so many secrets and -- -- and what she wants to do things is to perpetuate.
And then there's this wonderful.
Form engaged -- On camera persona.
Which is step -- and it really is -- Oprah.
But there's much more -- pretend that there's the camera person which -- -- very.
Closed interior loop and then she herself evening says.
In her recent magazine.
I -- circled the science faring very tight group that people.
Oprah has grown up -- -- for the last 25 years she's been in our homes every single day for an hour days five days a week.
-- really feel like we know our.
But what the against what trouble as a bushel Monday -- -- she does you know these wonderful warm shows with -- -- -- with.
You know all these self empowerment people and yet.
You know she has this relationship with Stedman Graham that nobody believes -- -- -- romantically sure.
Talent that is to release something like doctor Randy to lineman who who tried to get it -- Nobel Peace Prize.
After he had given them great American money to -- cared in Washington he told me as an African American he went out.
Anyone to get a hundred past and signatures.
Again better than Nobel prize and he said that people.
Would not sign because of that relationship with -- especially in the African American community.
Because they felt that she wasn't really a role model she didn't represent family that I -- And I said what are you kidding me Oprah Winfrey she's done so much for some irony.
And he said.
She -- gauged as Stedman Graham since 1990.
To -- they have never married and but I can't -- because I do remember in my -- -- -- press bother.
Bernard my entry told me she would never Mary Stanton because marriage is not a priority in her well.
-- a lot of people that doesn't matter.
But in that community.
It matters a lot and they see Oprah with her best friend Gayle farm.
Often and they hampers -- -- would step in the sense -- -- traditional lifestyle that.
Opens her up to a lot of speculation.
Our Gayle king and Oprah Winfrey gay lovers.
Now they're not get really good friend.
-- has a bedroom in every house that Oprah loans and -- -- -- -- There and they're very close I would tell you that the the relationship.
With statement is very strong.
To bond they've been together for many -- -- -- your relationship.
-- now Allen.
Stepped you know.
Now years ago yes that lives but at this stage of the game -- 56 years -- I wouldn't if I had to decliners sexually I would say eight election she's poured all of her energy.
Into her careers into the building her empire.
The priority in her life not getting married not -- children.
That is not.
You also about in the book you do hint of things about Stedman and his relationship with Armstrong Williams for example and Armstrong Williams who in the past has been accused.
Of some non.
Advancements of -- male staffers and that he has Armstrong and Steadman have a a business relationship.
Is there more to that relationship.
I don't know.
I do not now -- put -- in in Q Armstrong Orleans and he is that this is partner Stedman Graham.
When he Armstrong Williams is.
A conservative Republican and as he told me.
Stedman Graham is really a very conservative.
Republican -- so much ago.
That he would not -- Oprah.
Two Bill Clinton state dinner so Oprah had this -- Quincy challenged.
Well as traders think -- thanks to administrate.
-- I know there have been stories written about -- there are people who.
Who are -- -- my questions amendment it's I think these -- natural questions to me.
Well I'm laughing.
I'm good laughing because usually you're so lost stay in the general election.
Blood now you got the wrong guy here -- -- you know I don't era and all the path back back at.
It's interesting about Oprah's father who says some very not very nice things about Gayle King.
I'm gonna open the -- Allen when I went down from now they'll and I interviewed turner and wintry.
We had a very long conversation on the -- Packers and then he invited me to this barbershop.
-- -- and he 75 years older he was that the time my -- it.
And he was still running his barber -- still working every single day.
He was so.
Angry and -- campaign because she had called him.
I don't know -- remembered this but.
It lead down -- and certainly in -- wanted to bright.
His life story.
And -- -- read -- upset and she called her father.
And Tino getting ground earn him in cream cheese and simple and -- and no right to write your own life story.
Nobody cares about they only care about Oprah and you shouldn't be doing.
I'm very proud man.
Eric -- Is -- to say that have to Oprah's fault and -- mother became isn't that -- interesting.
Piece of information -- -- -- -- -- -- revealed to you -- her actual mother.
Well her father her actual father.
It's really not Vernon -- Yeah her biological father he -- the father.
Who is as -- who saved her life and of course developers.
Credit she gives him.
A -- grades for doing -- I didn't even know women went down in Mississippi -- -- -- fewer fans plane.
I spent time with her -- and different and during the days that I was there with grant Katharine.
She told me -- Oprah has big -- To tell her the identity.
Of her -- -- and I have deemed me.
You mean you know -- the real father is have been told Oprah she said no.
And then she proceeded to tell me who the real otherwise it is background but what happened to.
And I and chief said that Japan ever saying anything you must give me award Bonner and I -- blind.
And she did because.
It's -- as a mother.
Who -- -- story -- And I think people Oprah when -- view.
I mean -- got a right to know she still you know and aunt Catherine -- She has stopped on my shoulders she is they needed talent and I tell her.
And -- and Catherine I know you know you were there you weren't there at the time.
But -- gestures and Kathryn to sense your mother's got -- to you committed to her place.
The you know an -- doesn't.
That less than 32.
-- that's how I felt terms that they intended secret kimbo personalized.
Repeat this woman -- mean.
To -- everything -- has sent to.
Really amazing the book is Oprah it's Kitty Kelley -- -- spoken about.
I -- Well what about it on Hannity.
I will not do interviews for that book and a -- after that that's.
Kitty thank you very much -- don't on the program -- in the book thank you appreciate your time.
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