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President Obama is about to -- fraud to sign a new arms control treaty with Russia.
The president's trip coming just a day after his administration unveiled major changes in our nuclear -- strategy.
The change sharply limits America's arsenal and the circumstances under which we would use nuclear weapons.
The president saying the preventing nuclear proliferation and nuclear terrorism he's now a top priority.
You're now the author of the new book courage and consequence my life as a conservative in the fight Karl Rove.
The former deputy chief of staff to president George W.
Bush also a Fox News contributor so when you look Karl at the sum total.
Of what President Obama is calling for along with the secretary of defense and some of the other top leaders of the administration what's your take.
Well we've got two different things here we've got the -- the nuclear posture review.
In which the United States says it will not be used nuclear weapons under any circumstances against a non nuclear state I find that a little troubling.
Because it's taken an important tool off of the table.
And I would suspect that our allies who live under that nuclear umbrella.
Are a little bit disconcerting by this.
The other thing is this so called new start treaty that's going to be signed with the Russians and that's real helpful but let's not make it into a big deal but let's let's put this in context.
Before 2002 the United States had roughly 283500.
In 2002 we signed a treaty with the Russians after unilaterally say we're gonna reduce our stockpiles because our military experts so we could.
But this treaty of Moscow set a limit of roughly 17100.
To two step 22200.
This new start treaty that president Obama's gonna -- ostensibly and I use the word ostensibly.
Limits that now and the number of nuclear weapons to 15150.
Not a whole have clot and fewer than the 17100.
NSA ostensibly John because there's a weird thing in this treaty in which they say one bomber equals one warhead.
Well if you take a look at the bombers that we have of the bombers -- Russians have they can carry multiple warheads.
So theoretically under the new start treaty.
Each side could actually have about 300 nuclear weapons deployed more than we currently have under under the treaty of Moscow sent in 2002 there was a -- During the big announcement ceremony yesterday where the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and the Defense Secretary seem to be saying two different things.
Ought to play those sound bites for you and get your reaction.
The United States will not develop new nuclear warheads.
Programs to extend the lives of warheads.
-- only nuclear components based on previously tested designs.
And will not support new military missions or provide for new military capabilities.
We must recruit and then retain the scientific expertise to advance our technological edge in nuclear weaponry.
The technical technological edge is something that America has always maintained and -- the Defense Secretary says we're not gonna develop any new warheads were not gonna.
Developed any new nuclear weapons what do you make of it.
Well that's why the -- is troubling because it's sending mixed signals it's sending mixed -- -- allies can depend on us if they face a large scale conventional.
Attack -- and will we actually keep the technological edge to keep these weapons.
You look -- there's -- there's a there's a lifetime do this -- these weapons they deteriorate over a so are we going to have.
Things that help us make him more reliable and more secure.
And that visited the NPR was a little troubling than that and that in -- way and and and let's step back even further John what did we get by this assurance to the world.
There -- not gonna news use nuclear weapons on a non nuclear state.
Look what we said that we would we didn't have that promise we have caller for Asian India Pakistan.
South Korea although -- should be North Korea all of them got nuclear weapons.
It says if we're we're engaged in some sort of search for some kind of sort of self proclaimed moral standing that may have no practical impact on the real world.
What about -- the argument some use that that because America has so many nuclear weapons we encourage states.
Like Iran to develop them as self protection.
No they they get them for their own purposes he did do you really think the Iranians and their hard -- believing -- had believe having a couple of dozen and most are.
You wonder two or three nuclear weapons actually protects them in the north Koreans think.
That one or two or three -- nuclear weapons is gonna somehow dissuade the United States -- the necessity euros no it's not.
Did they get them for their own reasons and the reason they get -- resort to become big regional powers -- -- threaten their neighbors to become the big guy on the block is the Iranians are.
It may be in some instances.
Two you know in the case of the Iranians we've got clear language that they believe the State of Israel should be destroyed by whatever means are available necessary so.
That they don't get these weapons because the United States has these weapons it's a false premise.
And and we but we do look weak.
How would we take steps it seemed undermined our strength.
And it'll and look John what did we get out of this with the Russians the Russians desperately wanted to have the United States sit down.
It negotiated treaty with would really didn't matter what the contents of the work so much of and they wanted to be able to have a treaty.
We Chad we do we said we have seventeen to 2200 weapons.
Now we say we're gonna have 15150.
But we've been counted in the way that allows each side to have 2500 weapons.
What did we get out of this not a whole heck of a lot and we certainly didn't get their cooperation on restraining I ran.
They'll maybe never will change but I doubt it.
Karl Rove a former senior adviser to President Bush Karl thank.
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