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-- -- you've -- went up -- -- -- new twist in the US role in Afghanistan after.
2014 -- are supposed to begin pulling out this summer.
Most -- supposed to be gone by -- fourteen but now we have word that Afghanistan and the US are in talks for America's role beyond that date lieutenant colonel.
Papers with the center for advanced defense studies he -- in Afghanistan is also testifying on this issue in front of congress next month.
A so Tony what's your take care.
Well I think the problem is that current policies current strategy.
Will require us to -- well beyond the time we've talked about.
If we're going to maintain the gains that General Petraeus is made.
General Petraeus has said the gains are fragile reversible.
And the problem is this.
Did the Afghan military and police are not going to be in a position anytime soon by anyone I've spoken to there's no way they're going to be ready.
To take over responsibilities not this summer not 2014.
So the bottom line is apparently.
The cars like governments recognizing that and I think there are now trying to in some ways to subtly encourage us to stay past the date we have we've said -- pullout.
So -- -- this report there's no money for the troops that we train the Afghan army apparently there's -- big government and Afghani government doesn't have the money to support.
Some of the military that we helped to build the question that a lot of our viewers have though is.
Is what does our involvement look like does it involve bases does it involve combat troops are we talking another ten years here.
Why -- frankly we are and this is for.
Might think tank -- our researchers have said the alternative to this is actually allowing the democratic process.
And the political process to bring -- bond back in the process of that we can back out.
The problem is this we're the ones in the senate right now and -- -- the ones keeping the stability for what it's worth there.
Wherever we're at its stable.
The moment we leave and at last -- on fox I was -- talking about the fact the one of the -- we pulled out of al-Qaeda elements moved into it so that's the sad thing here -- as long as we're there we will be the ones -- -- heavy burden.
As soon as we leave that the chaos will probably come back and Franklin chaos may not be a bad thing is we won't be in the middle.
That the burden is so big though isn't it -- talking about hearing again.
Of more American lives lost.
Yes absolutely that's part of the problem we've got to ask ourselves what we're going to achieve here.
One point I agree a 110% with President Obama about is Pakistan is the issue.
That's where the safe havens or that that are act and that's where everything happens in right now both that -- the leadership of our end of -- bond.
And what's left of -- Qaeda are there.
We need to be addressing that more than we're addressing Afghanistan there's nothing in Afghanistan force in the long term Pakistan remains the key issue.
And also we're hearing that the air -- an Interior Minister I've made a visit to -- as well there's a lot of moving pieces in this region and -- of the things as more -- is a drawn down of troops that we've heard that's gonna start June July of this year were not too far from not.
President Obama told the Associated Press.
That it's going to be significant as significant -- -- -- what does that mean.
Well I think it's going to prove that -- -- the ones actually helping maintain the stability as soon as we start taking troops off to battle space.
We're gonna see an equivalent -- you know gain and it by the collar bomb.
Now that may not be a bad thing you go to our website -- -- -- radius of organ look at our our report culpable in the middle.
Talks about -- exactly like you just brought up the Iranians pakistanis.
The Indians -- -- have a role to play here.
This is that the bottom line we need to allow those elements who were local neighbors to start dealing with this and let us get out of the middle right now were the ones.
Basically supporting that -- central corrupt government and we're not -- in -- out.
And the middle on the back in the front a lot of -- of a problem where whatever position -- -- interest on Afghanistan and -- warriors look.
I summit Spencer -- and we'll continue to talk more about this lieutenant colonel Tony shaver is nice to have you thank you and I just.
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