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My opponent has said she would have voted for the Ryan budget picture that in Washington.
Those are her words not mine so you can check the record and a lot of lies and distortions about you know what my position on Medicare and then and it's scaring seniors quite frankly and I am I'm shocked and appalled by that I think it's important seniors understand that I'm trying to save the program they're -- votes from.
They have not taken from them.
The last out there from Jack Davis the self proclaimed Tea Party candidate.
In New York 26 the polls still open there Davis said businessman ran three times as -- Democrat.
The polls are still open but the question now is whether this is a really a referendum on GOP plans for Medicare earlier in the newscast we asked you.
Should the New York special election be considered a referendum.
On GOP Medicare plans just 14% of you said yes 86% said no in this non scientific poll we're back with the panel.
One what about this is is it in fact a referendum and is is that what it's come to in this race.
Well I think it's what people in Washington are looking -- for the political strategists are saying this is had a tremendous impact on what it should be an easy collection for any Republican -- -- heavily Republican district.
Went for Senator McCain over President Obama.
And this you know that the dynamics of it is that it's all been all about Medicare and it's all about the Ryan plan and it certainly has hurt.
Jane Corwin the Republican candidate so to that extent I mean it's hard to say how things turn out the early indications are that in.
You know Rochester and Republican districts like that has been light turnout heavier turnout in you know Erie county.
So which is democratic leaning so that would be helpful to heart shall.
But -- you know I don't know that that it's the actual result that matters here I think it's the political dynamic clearly we're in a moment when.
The Medicare plan is something that has become a lightning rod for our politics.
Depending on what happens this will be respond either way by either side.
Yes for the results in New York 23 it was a blast of -- 2009 and in Pennsylvania twelve and early 2010 but which the Democrats want an idiosyncratic special elections didn't.
-- very good.
Indicator what was going to happen in November 2010 and and in this race has all kinds of weird dynamic third party candidate to spend a ton of money mostly attacking the Republican.
And -- -- a Democrat is the running against Medicare against the Republican Medicare plan.
He's also saying she would not have voted for Obama's Medicare cuts she gets but -- of both worlds.
In the real election in 2012 when president Obama's at the top of the ballot and Obama care is -- front and center issue you don't get to say I'm against any cut by anyone.
In Medicare you have to say -- you for polarize reform Medicare -- -- for.
Obama -- Mentioning Paul Ryan just want to listen to this says he's been asked numerous times about this issue and whether.
The GOP is attacking -- Our budget makes no changes.
For those in or near retirement.
And it offers future generations.
A strength in the Medicare program that they can count on.
With guaranteed coverage options.
Less help for the wealthy.
And more for the poor and the sick.
He said it numerous times different ways Charles is that sinking him -- look at the ads by Democrats and Jack Davis the self proclaimed.
Tea Party candidate who was eventually ran as a Democrat many times.
They focus on Paul Ryan and this plant.
Well if Ryan is explaining it it's singson.
The problem is that they're Corwin hasn't explained -- -- -- -- was extremely defensive running away from this and unless you adept at explaining the plan.
And being behind in and that's saying oh well maybe that's not as bad as you think.
You're gonna lose on this issue I'm not optimistic -- -- Even if -- win the Republican pulls it out it's clear that many scare has had an effect -- if you.
In the parlor -- look at this ad that whereas someone who looks like Paul Ryan.
Pushes this old woman off -- cliff I mean I admire its subtlety.
And giving its message which is exactly how Democrats are treating -- this issue.
But unless you can explain immeasurable that are you going to be in trouble.
In the polls in this district.
US people what that the three most important issues.
-- jobs and Medicare.
If you'd had that -- a year ago November in the Republican sweep you wouldn't had to Medicare and so clearly it is a run in the issue they're equal.
With all the others it is a result of the Ryan plan and the moral is.
Demagoguery works especially on entitlements.
And you shouldn't you if you want to be a Republican this race.
And the revenues are hitched to the right plan.
You better be able to defend.
So for all this talk -- about the adult conversation in the fact that we have to deal with the big ticket items that entitlements have to be dealt with and if the -- situation is going to get under control for all of that.
When it comes election time just -- -- the wind.
Well people are still very afraid of alienating senior voters they're reliable voting -- -- and they come out now.
The thing is that I'm sure that if you're talking to the president's people -- say well you know what Republicans take revenues and tax increases off the table.
So you get both sides I think playing politics with this and it's very difficult to achieve the cuts don't want this doesn't affect the singles scene for ten -- -- those seniors -- -- and said they care about the fact that you're taking the way you're changing thing even for younger people.
Not -- affected them personally.
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