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Gov. Walker Stands Firm on Union Reform

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    Wisconsin governor on future of collective bargaining law

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Holiday time our -- -- yet -- I don't -- a lot of you heard this yesterday but it Wisconsin.

There's some big news that came out of the blow away a judge ruling that the governor's crackdown -- is particularly on this whole collective bargaining is suited.

Drool these rights back -- what the demonstrations in the light.

He couldn't do it.

So there's a freeze on this sort of activity.

For the first time since all of this sort of hit the fan.

The governance -- reacting.

Governor Scott Walker joining me now.

From -- Wisconsin governor what do you do now.

Well for us that the clear thing that was we found out that ruling is not that the law was not valid that the process was used.

At least according to the Circuit Court was not correct so.

Either next week when the Supreme Court -- to hear this case either by the time they're done in June or alternately by the end.

Do we have to have the legislature passing -- state budget one way or the other either through the Supreme Court but the legislature.

These reforms we've put into place and will ultimately be able to protect -- class jobs in the class taxpayers -- the same stance.

You know the one thing about that then governor and I don't understand is if the judge is saying delay the process was on was wrong -- people wouldn't get in.

It's a voter to get things whatever and I remember of these you know -- these democratic senators of both to this day.

If they wouldn't do that all over again it was that kind of disruption.

That prompted the crowds and everything else so they do it all over again.

It's the same issue right you can never -- This -- Well except for the fact that the process was not the the vote itself it was the timing of the vote how far in advance notice was given they can take this same point again is part of the state budget process.

And -- in separate legislation.

And still have the same outcome the other key difference is people like state senator Tim Cullen.

A Democrat from -- who has clearly stated he's not gonna leave the state again he would think that was the right approach is ready to move on to move beyond all this.

And so when the budgets up -- a feeling that.

While people like you may not agree with everything that's in the budget they're not gonna -- they're not gonna take off and that's really important because the budget itself.

Unlike other budgets across the country that cut billions of dollars.

Schools and local governments -- very universities.

-- Wisconsin.

We actually give those local governments and school districts the tools to balance a budget to avoid the massive layoffs to avoid the NASA property tax increases.

And that's why are states a much better state to do -- -- were not laying off people.

Well it was that might there will be the case governor about the rap against you is that you simply went too far -- -- not only anti union your -- selling off unions.

And that Wisconsin has gotten a reputation for that again fairly or not.

Some of -- -- more extreme critics are saying.

You're just out to -- unions are you.

Well again that's just run our private sector unions are partners -- economic development and in this case what we're trying to do is protect the workers you know in the past.

Some of our greatest teachers so the first year second your third your teachers.

The youngest to do is the best and the brightest in many cases that we have in our schools because they're the last -- higher than the first one out the door anytime there's a staffing change.

Our reforms actually allow our school districts to keep the best and brightest not based on tenure or seniority but instead based on merit and performance.

And that way we can focus in on what's important or schools or -- local governments the other key thing is.

I think if you look at the sediment that has come out of this that the fact that were willing to make tough decisions.

Thinking more about the next generation that we do just about the next election job creators across the country have taken noted that a year ago we ranked number 41.

The CEO survey the chief executive magazine puts out two weeks ago we came -- moving from 4117.

Spots up to 24.

Job creators are taking note and we've created some 25000.

Private sector jobs in the first four months alone.

That's having a positive impact our State's economy and it's gonna help us create a better state in the future.

Really getting a little -- -- what you're saying here and I know it's not your state or even an issue directly here but.

The -- labor relations board getting very involved in this -- -- extension in a right to work state like South Carolina.

And now wanting to weigh in on all -- corporate decisions that are made and I talked to the CEO.

Of Heinz yesterday on this very show.

Who said that that.

Scares him because it would be a lot easier for -- or his colleagues to just go abroad than deal with the hassle of getting a union's approval.

Here domestically do you share that -- do you think that's overstated its -- unions have what do you make up.

I don't think that's overstate I think you see this is raw politics not Republican or Democrat politics but labor union politics we -- Wisconsin in this in this debate.

The reality is they were willing to throw their members under the bus -- the process went along because what they wondered more than anything was an automatic guarantee.

That every public employee in the state be forced to be part of a union and that they get those union dues we give those employees the right to choose whether or not they wanna be a part of the -- -- not.

It ultimately we saw the real fact is they're fighting.

Not for workers' rights are fighting for union dues in the same way here.

They wanna fight to keep every single dollar possible as -- as you do news that's the politics in play.

It's not about protecting workers' rights it's ultimately about grabbing those dollars for the power plants.

Our governor thank you very very much we always good to be received -- you know who inspired me to cook a little Johnson who brought -- that we can expect.

That's you know that's one thing we don't have governor but -- has -- their brands -- -- -- on -- -- -- thank you very much governor be well out of -- weekend.

-- Scott Walker of of Wisconsin to get for those you just joining us besides us.

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