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The agency involved -- work with Indiana.
And if we expect in the coming to compliance Medicaid can't pay with federal dollars for abortion but it doesn't state can deny services from -- willing provider that's just what the law as we were just -- -- think it's unfortunate that we have a presidential administration is pushing a pro abortion agenda.
Again over the wishes of this particular State's legislature.
This is all about public funding for Planned Parenthood before the break we asked you will Indiana be forced to reverse its.
Ban on public funding for Planned Parenthood just 14% of you said yes 86%.
Said no and this unscientific poll.
The bureau of the Medicaid administrator Donald Donald Berwick a suggests that a warning perhaps is the state of Indiana would be good enough.
The attorney general there -- has released a statement saying this.
Quote we are reviewing the CMS letter that's the center for Medicare and Medicaid Services letter with our client FS FS SA to determine.
Our clients options but we will continue to defend.
I should say that's from the public information officer for the attorney general in Indiana we're back with the panel.
The battle here is over Charles Mitch Daniels signing this law that was passed by the legislature.
And whether the federal government can step in and say no you have to provide this this fund.
Look there is a policy issue here of course I agree with who -- and for Indiana.
Who said clearly the administration is trying to push a pro abortion agenda however this issue hinges simply on the interpretation of the law.
And the -- as everybody understands is that you can't use the funds to Medicaid funds to pay for them.
The provision of abortion everybody agrees.
Question is if you have an outfit that does two things.
Say performs abortion in the cleans teeth.
Everybody -- understands that you can pay for the abortion but can you subsidize with Medicaid money the teeth cleaning operation.
As I understand the law as a way it's -- interpret up until now the answers being yes.
So I think it's simply we are a country of laws and did this ought to be.
Adjudicated in a court have Indiana -- the Medicaid administration over this and see who's right.
Did because whenever you views on abortion are either -- allowed on the Medicare or it's not and let's.
The judiciary decide and.
I'm alive because right I mean if this system is -- designed to prevents the use of federal funds had spent on abortion services or not.
Com and you know it's you elect pro life a lawmakers and you pass these kind of laws to defund Planned Parenthood under threat -- prevent any kind of federal dollars based on abortion that's understandable but.
But that this is with us in a state politically it is it is going to be a and it's a problem these are federal funds and if if they're not allowed to be you if if if the federal government can denied four billion dollars in Medicaid funding to the state of Indiana.
I think in going into their three the third year of nearly 10% unemployment it's -- -- that that's a lot to gamble -- -- to put.
But nearly four billion dollars and Medicaid funding at risk to that state so.
If it if it you know so far all the states have been brought into -- who threaten to do something like this and no state has yet been penalized.
I don't know what we know where this is gonna play out but I think politically it's tough.
Bomb to put that much Medicaid funding.
It at risk.
Steve will if it if people Indian attorney general hasn't laid out his case for his response yet.
Indian several Indiana legislators candidate did in a letter that they sent to -- into the alias they laid out their argument and arguments basically two parts one.
The Medicaid act says that.
It's all -- who has the authority in addition to other authority a state may exclude an individual or an entity in this case would be Planned Parenthood.
For any reason that the secretary can exclude the sanity from receiving Medicaid funds.
Then there's -- 1991 Supreme Court case thrust -- solvent which gives that authority to the secretary.
If secretary has the authority the state has the authority according to language in the Medicaid act.
That's the way that the Indiana legislators.
Outlined their argument in this -- civilians the other day I expect that if Indiana decides to challenge this.
That's the same way that the -- attorney general Mike -- our.
I -- about the politics of this you know Mitch Daniels signed this law there was a lot of talk that he might be running for president now he's not running for president he's not going to be running for governor again -- is term limited there.
You know I mean.
Worse the politics I don't know that there will be politics on you know 2012 politics -- presidential politics on this in the Indiana.
But I think it's very interesting because it seems to me that if the administration is willing to make this case is now.
On Indiana and Planned Parenthood doesn't suggest that they're going to be willing to make this case about obamacare down the road that's -- that they're gonna.
Choose to require.
The states or our other entities to have Planned Parenthood included in their coverage and if that's the case I think they're gonna get a huge fight from Republicans.
-- that gives the states have a strong claim on the -- it's hard to understand why twelve other states.
Who attempted -- have caved and agreed to a compromise so that the federal funds would flow.
But secondly it shows how could ever there were worried about the -- worried about losing all the fines and they might lose in court I mean on.
Because traditionally I think the interpretation has been up until now.
The position of the administration but secondly it shows how corrupting.
With the states and the federal government are and essentially wipes out federalism.
It makes a state of fassel of the federal government -- because all the money's coming in and it's very government is -- finding new if Washington is -- you if you don't.
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