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Uncut: Amb. Hakimi 'On the Record,' Pt. 2

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    Part 2 of Greta's entire interview with Afghanistan's ambassador to the U.S.

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You mentioned trade.

As luck would have it as I was traveling with secretary of state Hillary Clinton.

Two your country.

About a year ago.

And the media was rushed into the room as a historic agreements -- -- between your government.

And Pakistan.

Which surprised us in the media and what -- -- out for is Pakistani trucks -- I -- Afghan its trucks and Afghanistan to go.

From Afghanistan.

Through Pakistan.

To India to really boost your economy it was it was a big -- out.

-- that's been signed.

Sure you -- and I was a big success and I was a major milestone.

As far as I know though assigned last year in July 19.

Before -- -- conference Monday before Kabul conference.

That have been all live related documents and illegal procedure is completed -- -- -- member of the commission of I ask a parliament endorsed it and it was endorsed in -- some parliament and then you have exchanged.

Ratification instruments.

And now it's about time to be implement.

So so far your trucks Pakistan is now light trucks go.

From our country -- in India so so far you know it's been signed sealed and delivered everyone's agreed that hasn't happened.

But it's not happening and fortunately and we are hopeful that's.

Debt to according to get implementation.

Plan that says -- we have worked out and hopefully in India next weeks -- so according to the plan.

That implementation.

If it happened it's not only as he said that out of track.

And reach to deploying that wasn't -- but also and -- it right off Afghanistan -- -- country.

I'm using -- -- -- crotch -- off Pakistan.

For.

Of transferring.

Good it's from other part of the work into Afghanistan.

We're hopeful that that will -- -- Well it's no secret that Pakistan and India don't get along they've been Saber rattling in the -- of nuclear weapons for a long time.

And it's no secret that Pakistan doesn't want to help.

India.

And of course that's so historic that they would let their you're landlocked -- country can trade through them with India.

And so I guess I'm a little bit curious whether or not -- think that Pakistan is -- in its feet towards truly trying to help.

Afghanistan and get on its economic feet.

But it's not only -- for ever done this and it's good foot -- economy as well and had economy.

For their region as a whole.

And the -- was part of after the game and that's how we should he move these barriers.

-- for economic votes.

And because of that we have agreed to -- disagreement and have such an agreement to.

Get access to that -- Of the region.

And -- -- trade between.

Countries and also to facilitate people to people contact.

It seems slow to me though it's into the should've happened months ago is -- you know you're very nice mild mannered patient man.

You know I saw the enthusiasm for and I heard -- said it was going to do for your country needs as for Pakistan and now right a year later.

And it just hasn't happened it doesn't.

In I don't understand that the way and -- impatient or are they -- They know I I agree with what gifts that we should have done the Twilight Zone but.

Sometimes -- or difficulties.

Then and some would not only different tapes and -- C but.

Some some institutions.

That.

If they see thinks.

Not according to -- design.

Day and they create this is such a problem but I say sit we are hopeful that the according to day implementation plan that we have made it.

We should -- implementation.

And also -- importantly.

And that at -- natural mechanism that he has established between Afghanistan the United States and Pakistan.

Button and this is one -- I mean I agenda.

Item.

That we should focus more on popped and we should.

-- report for the progress.

Often opt this is what he called opt out Afghanistan Pakistan trade -- -- agreement.

And another hopeful that.

Ultimately it will be implement.

It a lot of the problems -- the United States has recently had a Pakistan amid the tension having to do from primarily with the something mom being found and killed in Pakistan and the United States has signed an agreement with Pakistan and joined target agreement -- -- -- it.

But taxed and that states -- just on -- -- gonna work together are agreed upon it worked together used joint assets to get.

Certain terrorist targets.

One of those terrorists tyrants Paris -- Omar head of the Taliban.

At the same time I read that there's efforts by.

The your government and even United States -- they wanted to talk to the Taliban.

Can you clarify.

Whether that's true or not whether there's an effort to topple the Taliban.

Well I -- with our international.

Coalition forces from Indy with United States.

We have initiated that peace process.

-- conciliation and the integration.

These are part of and overall.

Peace process that's -- within the context of the strategy of fighting against terrorism.

That's why are we out of doing the military operation.

We -- it.

We should talk from.

Is strong position and also.

Make this situation of such.

And and leave that room for negotiation as well.

CF fight a peculiar that we signed an agreement to go after the head of the Taliban meanwhile.

We're trying to figure out how to -- Well.

I say sit admitted -- the operation and also.

Making their -- read before negotiation.

He's.

Part of this -- -- Two.

To make this situation.

Or bearing debt and have been going.

Environment for.

But those that -- willing to be part of this political process.

Is Mullah Omar back act.

Well what he has brought to Afghanistan and what he he has done and dark -- that we.

Still remember.

He -- things to our people that.

Nobody really likes and do you have any reason to believe that the number two in al-Qaeda Al zawahiri.

-- the head of the Taliban.

Mullah Omar is in your country.

When we have reason to believe that there are brought within Afghanistan.

Because we know of people we know Afghanistan will and we know that region well.

So.

That north Americans.

Does United States indicate to -- -- that they think that those two are in your country.

Well now they believe us that that's the case author of some of their -- that.

Hasn't been that compliment as you've been protesting for quite some time -- in line was not your country.

But we've been suspicious of it.

It -- as that is -- difficult for you.

Well it was difficult.

We.

Copy that that's proved to be a fact.

That that was the case.

-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Well yes not only running TV station.

Have private TV stations.

Did is -- restriction whatsoever -- In freedom of speech.

Through media through newspapers.

And through.

Whatever you name it.

You can.

You can have your voice to be -- So the biggest free to say whatever it lots.

Under restriction no restriction but how about the women I'm gonna go to school.

Do not only going to school -- participating -- in.

Various part of the society.

And politics to engage in.

Three -- in.

In and national security forces we have a woman.

Also.

-- doing.

Very successful businesses -- it in our parliament two and it percent of in Pisa.

Woman.

-- -- in cage.

Whatever you name it we -- woman.

In schools.

How tough.

Almost eight million students that we have.

Had 39%.

Or other girls.

-- And also we have a -- of woman.

Teachers.

This is one of color trying.

If you strike son's room.

Discussed a deal with the talent management we'll follow it can you say with certainty that women's rights.

Won't be casualties and when we'll still continue -- those rights again.

Whether that -- -- principles that we will not compromise one that one of them one off one of the principle is.

That.

The that lights human drives mainly.

Woman rights is something that we will not compromise -- what does it what does -- intermission here in the United States.

Well why.

Top priority is to farmers -- Bilateral relationship.

To have.

Strategic -- and -- partnership.

Based on.

Mutual.

Interest and based on.

Which went on to -- -- to solvent states.

And strategic partnership that investigate.

Concerns.

-- country's best interest.

I find an answer easy to work with that we actually haven't -- administration.

Relatively new but two years old and new secretary of state.

Is it I feel -- sort of -- growing pains of your country having to meet a new administration or not.

When life -- -- quite frankly.

Colleagues here that.

Claiming to have this kind of strong relationship.

Let us know right now we've given -- enough negotiation.

Strategic partnership that.

It defines.

Both countries.

Had permission from the -- -- so that if he hopes that fateful moments to come.

-- -- You know and we change administration's -- to change for all of us here in the country.

-- we I never really -- to think about.

What impact it might have.

On another country where we have active military.

Actually went -- and and very important diplomatic issues and never have thought about that the effect -- could have I'm here.

That's that he can -- Both Afghanistan and next stage -- that's been lights to decide on solid.

Acting and that's.

Only that he -- -- send an interest -- In that horrible that region that realities.

Slightly different.

All and things.

You should make them balance such.

-- -- -- attention to the mobile we.

Excellence and this partnership remark threatening.

Pad dead in case that's.

FDA's like Americans -- -- a lot of I don't like this -- FF -- like Americans.

When.

To some extend.

We have -- and and shared values that's true but that we think it was different.

Yeah.

Think different -- you -- and see things form defense different perspective.

I'd like to -- What.

I'm Daryn for the last three months -- so is that.

Some of them misconceptions.

That's right now that exist between.

-- country it's because of the cultural difference.

Don't believe that you're thinking and the way we it's EC -- it's it's.

Sebastien thank you -- let the United States and that hope all goes well this pregnancy thing.

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